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		<title>By: Pam Maltzman</title>
		<link>http://www.rachellucas.com/2008/04/her-husband-is-a-lucky-man/#comment-28227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam Maltzman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Mike Hunter:  

Owee.  Your wife sounds a lot like the ex-girlfriend of my long-ago ex-boyfriend who passed away recently (the man, not the bitch)... except that the bitch I&#039;m referring to wasn&#039;t overweight.  

Good luck.  Hope you find who and what you&#039;re looking for in the future.  

Regarding your &quot;master&quot;:  I&#039;m betting that although the overweight is no fun, that probably pales next to the part about being a bitch who lied to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mike Hunter:  </p>
<p>Owee.  Your wife sounds a lot like the ex-girlfriend of my long-ago ex-boyfriend who passed away recently (the man, not the bitch)&#8230; except that the bitch I&#8217;m referring to wasn&#8217;t overweight.  </p>
<p>Good luck.  Hope you find who and what you&#8217;re looking for in the future.  </p>
<p>Regarding your &#8220;master&#8221;:  I&#8217;m betting that although the overweight is no fun, that probably pales next to the part about being a bitch who lied to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.rachellucas.com/2008/04/her-husband-is-a-lucky-man/#comment-28075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is that this article may as well have been written by my girlfriend.  After she &quot;accidently&quot; got pregnent; despite repeatedly assuring me that she was infertile and giving me a guilt trip about how I didn&#039;t trust her every time I tried to use a condom.  Now I&#039;m chained to an overweight, over bearing, bitch who&#039;s bleeding me dry financially, and doesn&#039;t put out.  Not that I&#039;m attracted to her any more anyway.  

Oh well at least I only have one more semester until I graduate.  Then I&#039;ll be able to find a real job, afford a real lawyer, and will only be chained to her financially.  Becoming an indentured servant and paying her mommy support will surely suck.  But endentured servitude still beats slavery any day of the week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is that this article may as well have been written by my girlfriend.  After she &#8220;accidently&#8221; got pregnent; despite repeatedly assuring me that she was infertile and giving me a guilt trip about how I didn&#8217;t trust her every time I tried to use a condom.  Now I&#8217;m chained to an overweight, over bearing, bitch who&#8217;s bleeding me dry financially, and doesn&#8217;t put out.  Not that I&#8217;m attracted to her any more anyway.  </p>
<p>Oh well at least I only have one more semester until I graduate.  Then I&#8217;ll be able to find a real job, afford a real lawyer, and will only be chained to her financially.  Becoming an indentured servant and paying her mommy support will surely suck.  But endentured servitude still beats slavery any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Maltzman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam Maltzman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to stir the pot a little bit, I believe that Dennis Prager wrote something to the effect that men will try to get away with stuff, and that women are supposed to get tough and not let them get away with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to stir the pot a little bit, I believe that Dennis Prager wrote something to the effect that men will try to get away with stuff, and that women are supposed to get tough and not let them get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Maltzman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pam Maltzman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plumb Bob:  

A long-ago ex-boyfriend of mine had an ex-girlfriend from hell just like what you&#039;re describing.  Please note that I am not defending such behavior.  

Personally, I was appalled by it.  But I also noted that the beyotch in question had men standing in line for her, as long as her looks held out.  And other similar beyotches had men standing in line for them.  

I, on the other hand, wasn&#039;t as &quot;hot&quot; as this beyotch was considered to be... however, I treated men a lot better.  Didn&#039;t matter.  

And yes, I felt sorry for her kids... not the least because, every time she turned up pregnant, there was a question of paternity.

This beyotch and her shenanigans may have contributed to the early deaths of two men I used to know, one of them the ex-boyfriend.  

Again, I&#039;m not defending this kind of behavior.  But I sure as heck have noticed that for a lot of women, it gets results, even though in the long term it makes both parties look like idiots, IMO.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But women have power and know how to use it, and if they respect men, they don’t dress in a manner that says “Please Do Me Now” and behave like that’s what they want, and then halfway into the game say “Oh, sorry, I just wanted a few drinks.” If they respect men as human beings, they don’t use their power that way; they dress modestly until they really do want what it seems like they’re asking for (like, after they’re married).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, in general I agree... however, OTOH, I&#039;ve heard men say (out loud and in print) that they will go for the &quot;hot-looking chick&quot; over the woman who&#039;s dressed &quot;like a librarian.&quot;  OTOH, if they go to a club to meet the opposite sex, maybe a lot of those guys are not looking for anything more committed than a fling.

It&#039;s a dance, and for people like me, it&#039;s hard to know just what the other person wants when they don&#039;t come out and say it.  IMO both men and women need to treat each other with respect. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s like the man being stronger physically, but never physically forcing his wife to do anything. If people respect each other, they use their power to uplift, assist, and fulfill each other, not to take advantage of them. The sexual power of women over men is real; use it for good, not for evil.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I couldn&#039;t agree more... and the respect part goes for both men and women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plumb Bob:  </p>
<p>A long-ago ex-boyfriend of mine had an ex-girlfriend from hell just like what you&#8217;re describing.  Please note that I am not defending such behavior.  </p>
<p>Personally, I was appalled by it.  But I also noted that the beyotch in question had men standing in line for her, as long as her looks held out.  And other similar beyotches had men standing in line for them.  </p>
<p>I, on the other hand, wasn&#8217;t as &#8220;hot&#8221; as this beyotch was considered to be&#8230; however, I treated men a lot better.  Didn&#8217;t matter.  </p>
<p>And yes, I felt sorry for her kids&#8230; not the least because, every time she turned up pregnant, there was a question of paternity.</p>
<p>This beyotch and her shenanigans may have contributed to the early deaths of two men I used to know, one of them the ex-boyfriend.  </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not defending this kind of behavior.  But I sure as heck have noticed that for a lot of women, it gets results, even though in the long term it makes both parties look like idiots, IMO.</p>
<blockquote><p>But women have power and know how to use it, and if they respect men, they don’t dress in a manner that says “Please Do Me Now” and behave like that’s what they want, and then halfway into the game say “Oh, sorry, I just wanted a few drinks.” If they respect men as human beings, they don’t use their power that way; they dress modestly until they really do want what it seems like they’re asking for (like, after they’re married).</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, in general I agree&#8230; however, OTOH, I&#8217;ve heard men say (out loud and in print) that they will go for the &#8220;hot-looking chick&#8221; over the woman who&#8217;s dressed &#8220;like a librarian.&#8221;  OTOH, if they go to a club to meet the opposite sex, maybe a lot of those guys are not looking for anything more committed than a fling.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a dance, and for people like me, it&#8217;s hard to know just what the other person wants when they don&#8217;t come out and say it.  IMO both men and women need to treat each other with respect. </p>
<blockquote><p>It’s like the man being stronger physically, but never physically forcing his wife to do anything. If people respect each other, they use their power to uplift, assist, and fulfill each other, not to take advantage of them. The sexual power of women over men is real; use it for good, not for evil.</p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more&#8230; and the respect part goes for both men and women.</p>
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		<title>By: bill mecorney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bill mecorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well. It may be a culturally driven thing, but it is very common in Public discussion to observe a fairly rare (one would hope) dysfunctional example of coupling, and then experience an onslaught of obviously ill-informed opinion framed against such an unfortunate family. So much seems to be assumed at face value, notoriety and tongue-in-cheek play havoc with reality. Bob, don&#039;t forget that males have a reciprocal attractive power &quot;over&quot; women. It is a dance, and just because there is a &quot;victim&quot; don&#039;t assume that there are not two &quot;playing&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. It may be a culturally driven thing, but it is very common in Public discussion to observe a fairly rare (one would hope) dysfunctional example of coupling, and then experience an onslaught of obviously ill-informed opinion framed against such an unfortunate family. So much seems to be assumed at face value, notoriety and tongue-in-cheek play havoc with reality. Bob, don&#8217;t forget that males have a reciprocal attractive power &#8220;over&#8221; women. It is a dance, and just because there is a &#8220;victim&#8221; don&#8217;t assume that there are not two &#8220;playing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plumb Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pam Maltzman wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure why some folks are all that upset about this. The couple of women I know who were extremely manipulative with men, seemed to get their way with men a lot. In fact, sometimes the guy seemed to not realize he was being manipulated, or else he actually liked the appearance of being kissed up to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A) Perhaps if you were married to someone who either gave or withheld affection based on what they wanted to achieve at that moment, rather than on your intrinsic worth and beauty, you might understand better how deeply hurtful this is. It hurts equally regardless of whether you&#039;re aware of the game or not.

B) Why would the fact -- and a fact, it is -- that many men don&#039;t know when they&#039;re being manipulated, make this sort of manipulation any less offensive? Abuse is abuse, even if you don&#039;t know that&#039;s what it is.

This has relevance to single women&#039;s behavior and dress in public places. Some young women dress and behave like they want... you know. Yes, it&#039;s always the man&#039;s responsibility to restrain himself, and to accept &quot;no&quot; when he hears it. But women have power and know how to use it, and if they respect men, they don&#039;t dress in a manner that says &quot;Please Do Me Now&quot; and behave like that&#039;s what they want, and then halfway into the game say &quot;Oh, sorry, I just wanted a few drinks.&quot;  If they respect men as human beings, they don&#039;t use their power that way; they dress modestly until they really do want what it seems like they&#039;re asking for (like, after they&#039;re married).

It&#039;s like the man being stronger physically, but never physically forcing his wife to do anything. If people respect each other, they use their power to uplift, assist, and fulfill each other, not to take advantage of them. The sexual power of women over men is real; use it for good, not for evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam Maltzman wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not sure why some folks are all that upset about this. The couple of women I know who were extremely manipulative with men, seemed to get their way with men a lot. In fact, sometimes the guy seemed to not realize he was being manipulated, or else he actually liked the appearance of being kissed up to.</p></blockquote>
<p>A) Perhaps if you were married to someone who either gave or withheld affection based on what they wanted to achieve at that moment, rather than on your intrinsic worth and beauty, you might understand better how deeply hurtful this is. It hurts equally regardless of whether you&#8217;re aware of the game or not.</p>
<p>B) Why would the fact &#8212; and a fact, it is &#8212; that many men don&#8217;t know when they&#8217;re being manipulated, make this sort of manipulation any less offensive? Abuse is abuse, even if you don&#8217;t know that&#8217;s what it is.</p>
<p>This has relevance to single women&#8217;s behavior and dress in public places. Some young women dress and behave like they want&#8230; you know. Yes, it&#8217;s always the man&#8217;s responsibility to restrain himself, and to accept &#8220;no&#8221; when he hears it. But women have power and know how to use it, and if they respect men, they don&#8217;t dress in a manner that says &#8220;Please Do Me Now&#8221; and behave like that&#8217;s what they want, and then halfway into the game say &#8220;Oh, sorry, I just wanted a few drinks.&#8221;  If they respect men as human beings, they don&#8217;t use their power that way; they dress modestly until they really do want what it seems like they&#8217;re asking for (like, after they&#8217;re married).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the man being stronger physically, but never physically forcing his wife to do anything. If people respect each other, they use their power to uplift, assist, and fulfill each other, not to take advantage of them. The sexual power of women over men is real; use it for good, not for evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In all the excellent responses to this harridan&#039;s diatribe, I saw not one that asks the question:

What about the kids?

What are the children learning in that household? What sort of human beings will they become? Would you want your son or daughter to marry the product of that set of parents? How are they suffering from the lack of an effective father? How are they suffering from watching guerrilla marriage tactics work? What do they think of their parents?

A fellow I know married a woman who turned out eventually to be psychotic (literally), but who played a remarkable game throughout their 19-year marriage: she always needed to feel that she was a &quot;good girl&quot; in every transaction, so she manipulated with great cunning to make sure there was a &quot;bad guy&quot; nearby on whom she could blame anything. Most of the time, the victim was her husband, and the audience was her children, though occasionally the children became victims themselves. The poor man (who was, himself, pretty far short of perfect, and against whom she did have some valid complaints) had no idea what hit him, and for years wondered what he was doing so very wrong that his marriage seemed so difficult. Now that they&#039;re divorced, he understands a lot better. 

But guess what? The kids, who are now grown, blame him for the divorce. They spent a lifetime hearing (subliminally -- she really was subtle) what a loser he was, and how innocent and good their mother was, and they believed it. So they&#039;ve willfully severed most every contact with their father. They&#039;ve lost him, and he&#039;s lost them.

The husband is not the only victim. The kids are the victims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all the excellent responses to this harridan&#8217;s diatribe, I saw not one that asks the question:</p>
<p>What about the kids?</p>
<p>What are the children learning in that household? What sort of human beings will they become? Would you want your son or daughter to marry the product of that set of parents? How are they suffering from the lack of an effective father? How are they suffering from watching guerrilla marriage tactics work? What do they think of their parents?</p>
<p>A fellow I know married a woman who turned out eventually to be psychotic (literally), but who played a remarkable game throughout their 19-year marriage: she always needed to feel that she was a &#8220;good girl&#8221; in every transaction, so she manipulated with great cunning to make sure there was a &#8220;bad guy&#8221; nearby on whom she could blame anything. Most of the time, the victim was her husband, and the audience was her children, though occasionally the children became victims themselves. The poor man (who was, himself, pretty far short of perfect, and against whom she did have some valid complaints) had no idea what hit him, and for years wondered what he was doing so very wrong that his marriage seemed so difficult. Now that they&#8217;re divorced, he understands a lot better. </p>
<p>But guess what? The kids, who are now grown, blame him for the divorce. They spent a lifetime hearing (subliminally &#8212; she really was subtle) what a loser he was, and how innocent and good their mother was, and they believed it. So they&#8217;ve willfully severed most every contact with their father. They&#8217;ve lost him, and he&#8217;s lost them.</p>
<p>The husband is not the only victim. The kids are the victims.</p>
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