Dumb people love a socialist.

Two videos are making the rounds and I would be a sorry excuse for a hillbilly racist if I didn’t post them, too. They’re below the fold (click “continue reading” down there) because otherwise they’d make my page load too slow.

In case you can’t watch them:

The first one is via Ace and it’s Obama at a campaign thing, shaking hands and being a politician, when a man asks him about raising his taxes (the back story I read somewhere else says the guy owns a plumbing business that makes over $250K). Obama says:

“It’s not that I wanna punish your success, I just wanna make sure that everybody behind you, that they have a chance at success, too. I think we need to spread the wealth around.

Of course you do. You’re a socialist asshole who sees nothing wrong with killing the incentive for people to work hard, nothing wrong with taking what I have earned and giving it to someone else so that they can “succeed,” too. And we’re supposed to believe this man is a brilliant thinker.

The second vid is from the Howard Stern show and is a soul-crushing example of why that socialist asshole is probably going to win. Because people are stupid. Stern’s guy goes out in the streets of Harlem and asks people who they’re voting for. Most of them say, without hesitation, “Obama.”

Then Stern’s guy basically says, “okay, what part of his policies do you like the most? Do you like him because he’s pro-life or because he wants to stay in Iraq and finish this war?”

Most of them answer something like “both.” I shit you not. Even though Obama is neither pro-life nor intent on staying in Iraq. You know who is? Mr. John McCain, that’s who.

And the best part is, he then asks them if they like Obama’s pick for VP - “Sarah Palin” - and if they think SARAH PALIN will make a good vice president if Obama wins.

They all answer yes.

I swear, if one more person tells me it’s fascist to require a basic political comprehension test to have the right to vote…

I’m going to go take my chemistry test now. Hopefully I’ll get a good grade so I can use this degree to get a good job, so that I can help spread the wealth around to MORONS.

96 Comments


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  1. dogette Says:

    We’re so doomed.

  2. Jim Says:

    Love the H.S. video, so true… so sad….

  3. maya Says:

    so, I haven’t followed the Howard Stern part of your story, but is anyone saying the R word? (the R word being “racism”, of course) becaus of making poor black people look dumb? If they are using the R word, a quick glance at any Leno “Jaywalking” would reveal that stupidity and uninformed-ness does not follow race lines.

  4. the asset Says:

    hey! hey! e’rbody!!

    this feller here says all yew gotta do is to make your mark on a piece of paper, and he’ll give yew 40 acres! and a *mule*!!!

  5. k5mbh Says:

    I’m getting an Obamorrhoid over this…

  6. maya Says:

    oh yeah: GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TEST!!!!!!

    Yes, capslock was warranted.

  7. dfwmtx Says:

    If there’s only one thing I could impart to the rest of society, it would be to have civics teachers write on the board TANSTAAFL one day, and explain “there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.” But that’ll never happen because it’d impart such a degree of cynicism upon the populace that pork earmarks and socialism would be gone within a generation.

  8. John H Says:

    This is not good. It’s probable that this nation is going to elect a hammer-and-sickle communist whose supporters simply see the pretty face and hear the pretty voice and don’t have a clue what the guy is saying. It’s like when my brother would talk to the dog (the psycho Lhasa) and croon sweetly, “Aw, you stupid asshole! You ridiculous retard!” and the dog would be all happy and rolling around on the floor…

  9. physics geek Says:

    This may mark the first time that someone (the US people) went broke underestimating the stupidity of people.

    On the plus side, I won’t have to work anymore to make ends meet. The magic pony that Obama will give me will shit money and Scooby Doo reruns. Unfortunately, the latter excretion requires one to be a bit too close to the south end of northbound horse, so I might have to give up the cartoons.

  10. Amanda Says:

    Heh. I listen to the Stern show faithfully and was telling a friend about that segment. It never fails to amuse . . . and horrify. The ironic thing is that Stern is supporting Obama. He is usually very fair and even-handed and up until a month ago he was undecided, but he’s swallowed the media’s depiction of Palin hook, line and sinker and now says he wanted to vote for McCain but can’t because of Palin.

    Sad.

  11. DaveW Says:

    Most of them answer something like “both.” I shit you not.

    See, this is why I pay the big mooey dinero for access to this blog. I don’t know anyone besides Rachel, myself and my dad that uses the phrase “I shit you not”. It’s a hillbilly classic.

    And as dogette says, and as I’ve said here a few times I think, we are doomed.

    I’m serious, I went to Academy and bought 5 boxes of 12 gauge birdshot this past weekend. I also bought some socks and an Astros shirt but that isn’t relevant…I hope…so I won’t waste you guys’ time talking about that.

    If you think owning and operating a firearm is important you better get your ass down to the gun store right now and stock up.

    I shit you not.

  12. Janir Says:

    We should require only 2 things to be allowed to vote.

    1. Rachel’s Political comprehension test
    I will under a Rachel Lucas dominated world be more than willing to devise the said tests. It will consist of easy to answer questions on the positions that a 5 year old could answer. If you can’t pass the test then GTFO of the voting booth.
    2. You have to actually pay taxes. If your not paying taxes for whatever reason rich or poor, you don’t get to vote that year in anything.

    In all seriousness, I like the citizenship requirement of Starship Troopers (the book not the abomination they called a movie)of some term of military service which proves you are willing to sacrifice yourself in some form for the good of the whole. Even if it means not allowing military to vote until after their term of service has been honorably satisfied.

  13. Janir Says:

    Amanda Says:

    Heh. I listen to the Stern show faithfully and was telling a friend about that segment. It never fails to amuse . . . and horrify. The ironic thing is that Stern is supporting Obama. He is usually very fair and even-handed and up until a month ago he was undecided, but he’s swallowed the media’s depiction of Palin hook, line and sinker and now says he wanted to vote for McCain but can’t because of Palin.

    Sad.

    Stern is just using that as an excuse. He was no more ready to vote for McCain than he is ready to enter the Catholic priesthood.

  14. scotaku Says:

    Hey, Obama – you have just now dead-bang killed my desire to be the best I can be. I now want you to help me out, you personally, because I am now behind you and I want a chance at success. I want my “fair chance” at getting “wealth.” Because the way I hear it, there is no other method imaginable where I can do more/do better.

    So I demand that you, Barack H. Obama send me my wealth. I shit you not.

  15. Rob Farrington Says:

    Oh. My. God. I’m totally with you on the political comprehension test. I have to admit to some guilt here myself though (from a UK point of view), as I voted for NuLabour in the 1997 general election. I didn’t know anything about economics or even what the different parties’ policies on anything were - I just voted the way that everyone else was voting.

    I really shouldn’t have been allowed to vote, and I apologize to any fellow Brits who happen to be reading for my part in the whole disaster. Thankfully, I’m more informed these days and I have people such as Rachel, Kim du Toit, Bill Whittle, Misha and many others to thank for helping turn me into the proud EEEVILL!!1!! conservative-leaning type that I am today.

    Good luck from me, too! Do you actually have real tests over there, or is it like in the UK where you can write ‘fuck off’ as an answer to a question and be given points for it?

  16. Rickvid in Seattle Says:

    Can we call Obeyme supporters racially motivated shallow dimbulbs yet?

  17. dogette Says:

    If the Obama-bots elect this asshole and he really starts going all commie-socialist, I’m not going to lift a finger anymore, or strive to make anything of myself. I’m going to wallow in abject sloth the rest of my days. Oh wait, that won’t work. I’m pretty sure that in socialist countries if you don’t PRODUCE, you are sent to a gulag or you end up on a mass grave.

    I SHIT YOU NOT, people.

  18. Bonnie_ Says:

    I prefer Thomas Jefferson’s idea. You must be a landowner to vote (which in our time would translate into being a taxpayer.)

    If you pay taxes, you get to vote. If you don’t, you don’t. My kids don’t get to decide how to spend the money of our household. They’d vote for Twinkies and X-Boxes and never save a dime.

    Wait, I just described liberals.

  19. MarkoCincy Says:

    I quit being amazed at how dumb people are years ago.
    George Carlin said it better than I ever could…….”Think about how stupid the average American that you meet is, and then realize that half of them are dumber than that.”
    Marko

  20. SSG King Says:

    “It’s not that I wanna punish your success, I just wanna make sure that everybody behind you, that they have a chance at success, too. I think we need to spread the wealth around”

    in other words,redistribution of wealth

  21. SSG King Says:

    “Bonnie_ Says:

    I prefer Thomas Jefferson’s idea. You must be a landowner to vote (which in our time would translate into being a taxpayer”

    lets expand upon this.A written test,at the polls,to determine basic literacy,and competence-maybe actually being able to coherently discuss the constitution,and name who your senators and house members are,and name at least threee supreme court justices,instead of merely being able to recite the details from the latest episode of “American Idol” would be nice.A performance test would’nt hurt either-the ability to drive a stick shift,reduce a stoppage on a belt fed machine gun,and render emergency aid might work

  22. SSG King Says:

    “And the best part is, he then asks them if they like Obama’s pick for VP - “Sarah Palin” - and if they think SARAH PALIN will make a good vice president if Obama wins.

    They all answer yes.”

    they walk among us.And reproduce.and vote.WHERE again is my bourbon?

  23. Paul T Says:

    I became convinced of the need for a political knowledge test for voting last week when someone who told me they were voting for Obama also told me they didn’t know who the CURRENT Vice President was until a couple weeks ago (”It’s Cheney, right?” they asked me), and that they only knew who Bush was “because he sucks”. Genius.

    I also got the feeling we were doomed while watching the late night talk shows last night. Conan had a 3 jokes in a row bashing McCain (because he’s old), Bush (because he’s stupid), and Palin (because she’s even stupiderer!) Apparently nothing funny can be found about Obama or Biden because they weren’t mentioned in the monologue. When this is the only exposure the average person gets to politics then we are fighting a battle that reminds me of the Alamo.

  24. Redhead Infidel Says:

    We are well and truly fucked.

    I’m embroiled in a huge unwelcome email kerfluffle (don’t ask me how I got involved, I don’t even know) that made my head explode this morning. It was waiting in my gmail inbox like a huge pile of steaming CRAP - bigger than any of Sunny’s piles of poop.

    I made the mistake of reading it BEFORE my coffee and decided that such idiocy cannot be countered. Impossible. Then, I had some coffee and gave it a shot. I remained pleasantly somewhat civil because I had no idea who was on the email list, but believe me I was RAGING inside.

    Because that’s what we conservatives do - RAGE.

    Impotently.

    _____________________________________

    PS: Dogette and Rachel, I did copy you two on it - because misery loves company. My misery empathizes with your misery. :(

  25. Kevin M Says:

    Just saw on another site an article stating that in 2000 (October) that Gore had 51% of the polls to GWB’s 40%.

    Take heart. When you are faced with a molotov-cocktail-wielding Obamatron pollster and respond “Obama!,” it just might be because you’re lying through your conservative teeth.

    Just vote and don’t panic until the last shot is fired.

  26. R Says:

    …I’m scared…

  27. lucy Says:

    I can only hope that the people in the Howard Stern clip will actually not even bother to vote.

    But yeah, we’re pretty much screwed.

    Edited to add: Yay! rachellucas.com was blocked at work for being a “social and networking” site (?), but you have magically broken free and now I can break up my workday with political and doggy goodness! Life is good.

  28. Tammy Says:

    Yes, Obama wants all you successful folks out there to bust your humps so welfare queens and kings (not honest-to-goodness stranded people) can lie on their fat a**es and watch Oprah. Also, don’t you want to help pay the medical expenses for all those poor, non-English speaking illegal immigrants? Case in point, this was supposed to be the “feel good” story on last night’s local news. Hah! Feel good my hind leg–made me want to puke: Non-English speaking woman calls 911 frantic. She eventually hangs up but not before the heroic 911 worker determined her whereabouts and sent EMTs and police to the residence. So turned out, she was in labor and rushed to the emergency room (do you feel your wallet emptying as I tell this?) where mother and baby were taken care of. Awww…don’t you feel so warm and fuzzy knowing that the tax money the government scalped you for helped her and the some other 15 or so relatives that occupy her same residence to stay here and mooch off the system free of charge? Oh, here’s the kicker. Her name was withheld from the news story. Of course it was! She doesn’t want to be hunted down and deported by ICE! My solution would be that if the child born here has rights to citizenship even though his or her parents are illegal, adopt the child out to one of those waiting couples who cannot have any of their own and deport their illegal, freeloading parents back to wherever they came from!

  29. Mont Says:

    Paul T, I saw Conan’s show last night too. I don’t mind the jabs, but like you said, there was not one barb aimed at Osama or Plugs Biden. I decided after the monologue that I’m no longer going to watching his show. I quit watching Letterman several years ago after he acted like an asshole to Bill O’Reilly, who was trying to be polite and have a civil disagreement. And I’m not an O’Reilly fan at all.

  30. My Awesome Mix Tape #6 Says:

    Kevin M Said:

    Just saw on another site an article stating that in 2000 (October) that Gore had 51% of the polls to GWB’s 40%.

    Take heart. When you are faced with a molotov-cocktail-wielding Obamatron pollster and respond “Obama!,” it just might be because you’re lying through your conservative teeth.

    Just vote and don’t panic until the last shot is fired.

    Hey Kevin I really love your optimistic view. I think more of us need to keep a lot of what you wrote in mind, especially “don’t panic until the last shot is fired.”

    Problem is (I’ve become such the pessimist) that if Gore = McCain then you have to have Clinton = Bush. I have a strong feeling that Gore lost because of the albatross that is Clinton hanging around his neck. Same bird, different neck.

    Sorry, but after listening to that Howard Stern bit I just think we are doomed.

  31. My Awesome Mix Tape #6 Says:

    A quick thank you to all who gave me such great advice a few days ago regarding my first purchase of a firearm.

    I am currently trying to learn as much as possible before I even step foot into a shooting range (which I thought was a terrific idea! Thank you again.)

    I’m also holding off until my mood lightens a bit about good ol’ Barry being able to fool so many people. Geez, I was 40 years old before I could afford to buy a house and now all that hard work seems for nothing.

    Maybe I need to start drinking again.

  32. AugustaSnow Says:

    I’m new to commenting, so please forgive my retarded hillbilliess. “It’s not that I wanna punish your success, I just wanna make sure that everybody behind you, that they have a chance at success, too. I think we need to spread the wealth around.“-Obama
    Yes, the Amazing Obama wants to redistribute the wealth, that is not such a surprise since he is a commie, but what I am surprised about is that no one that I have read around the blogosphere has seized on the words “that everybody behind you, that they have a chance at success, to.” What in the heck does that mean? Does he think that money is limited? That people can’t create new sources of wealth? That the only chance someone has in life is if the government gives it to them? In this country, of all places? Isn’t that kind a language reserved for talking about the environment? “Gotta keep the water and earth clean for the generations to come.” Not “gotta forcibly take your hard earned money that you planned to donate to charity so that it can be given to some Black Panther youth stepping in a youtube video while spouting off Obama’s health care plan and so that creepy child can use it to succeed at his intimidation tactics.” From what I’ve read about poverty and wealth, the question should be “why is there wealth” not “why is their poverty.” And until our leaders and fellow citizens can wrap their heads around that, we will have the poor poverty victims over paid for their lot in life by government. Thank goodness I quit my job this past December. Now I’ll be able to feed off of the Obama gravy train! Oh, and good luck on the test Rachel!

  33. Dirk Pitt Says:

    While out on the campaign trail I managed to switch Obama’s microphone with one containing a truth translator. Let’s listen in as the anointed one Barack speaks: Shit!!! Why does this fucking TelePrompTer keep breaking? Uh uhhh uh well yeah of course I am gonna steal, I mean tax more of your uhh uh uh hard earned cash you stupid rich white-bread cracker ’cause there are only so many of you and there uhhh uh uh well there is uh uh I mean there are uuhh uh are a shitload more lazy ass poo folk who will vote for me when I give them your uhh uh I mean OUR uh money. Now of course if you give enough to my buddies at ACORN I might be able to give your business a special tax exemption. I’ll hit you up later and give you their phone number.

  34. Redhead Infidel Says:

    Sarah Palin was on Rush Limbaugh at 12:30CST. I missed it.

  35. Tim in Phoenix Says:

    RACISTS! Yep, there it is. I said it.

  36. mare Says:

    I’m an optimist, however, I’m constantly fighting the urge to curl up in the fetal position and rock.

    “Hold me, Mommy.”

    Please, vote.

  37. Carmela Says:

    A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and, among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs. In other words, redistribution of wealth.

    She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

    One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

    Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn’t even have time for a boyfriend, and didn’t really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

    Her father listened and then asked, ‘How is your friend Audrey doing?’ She replied, ‘Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She’s always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn’t even show up for classes because she’s too hung over.’

    Her father asked his daughter, ‘Why don’t you go to the Dean’s office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.’

    The daughter, visibly shocked by her father’s suggestion, angrily fired back, ‘That’s a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I’ve worked really hard for my grades! I’ve invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!’

    The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently,

    ‘Welcome to the Republican party.’

  38. lucyluwho Says:

    “I shit you not” is also a favorite amongst those of us in Pennsyltucky. I’m a big fan of it, particularly when discussing the “Palin is a c—” shirt. Good gravy, already!

  39. Herb Says:

    The plumber in the video is like me looking in a mirror. We small business owners built our business one customer at a time. Nobody (GOVT)gave us anything. We took the risk, bet our ass and everything else (Home, Pickup, Harley, Retirement Acct., Etc.) and made it work. Redistribution of wealth??? Not today and damn sure not any time in the future. If those behind me want what I have they can get off their ass and work for it!!!

  40. dfwmtx Says:

    Spred teh welth, Obama; lemme hav yur book royalteez

  41. tibby Says:

    Redheaded I listened to it. Sounded great, down to earth and pretty much said the same thing she’s been saying, Rush was trying not to gush, but who can blame’m!

  42. Deanna Says:

    I also heard the Palin call to Rush. I got all excited and my four-year-old said, “She’s the one we like, right?”

  43. DGs World By Big D Says:

    Un-be-fucking-lievable.

    And yet, so be-fucking-lievable.

  44. tibby Says:

    Newsbusters has a post up about it.
    http://newsbusters.org/

  45. Chris from Winnipeg Says:

    I heard a really good explaination of how tax cuts work and thought I’d share it with you all.

    Le’s put tax cuts into terms that everybody can understand. Just suppose that every day, ten people go out to lunch. The total bill comes to $100. If they paid the bill the way we pay our taxes, it would be split up something like this:

    The first 4, the poorest, would pay nothing,
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh, $7.
    The eighth, $12.
    The ninth, $18.
    The tenth, (the richist) would pay $59.

    The 10 men ate lunch at the same restaurant everyday and seemed quite happy with the arrangement until the owner, as a sign of his appreciation for them being such good customers, reduced their bill by $20.

    Now their bill would only be $80. If the $20 “cut” was divided up the way we pay our taxes it would go as follows:

    The first 4 are unaffected but what about the other 6? If we simply divide $20 by 6 it would be $3.33 each which would mean that the fifth and sixth would be paid to eat lunch.

    The restaurant owner distributed the “cut” as follows:
    The fifth man, like the first 4 now paid nothing. (100% savings)
    The sixth paid $2 instead of $3. (33% savings)
    The seventh, $5 instead of $7. (28% savings)
    The eighth man paid $9 instead of $12. (a 25% saving)
    The ninth man paid $14 instead of $18. (22 % savings)
    The tenth man now paid $49 instead of $59. (16% savings)

    Each of the 6 men were better off than before and the first 4 continued to eat for free but once outside the restaurant they started to compare their savings.

    “I only got $1 out of the twenty,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man “but he got $10.”

    “Yeha, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than me!”

    “That’s true!!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

    “Wait a minute,” yelled the first 4 in unison, “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

    The next day, the tenth man didn’t show up for lunch, so the nine sat down and ate without him. When it came time to pay the bill, they discouvered something important. They didn’t have enough money between them to pay for even half the bill.

    And that is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they just might not show up at the table anymore.

  46. mightysamurai Says:

    Saw that Howard Stern video yesterday on Ace’s site. Part of me really wants to believe that it was all staged. That Stern is playing a practical joke on……someone.

    Anyway, some people earlier mentioned restricting the right to vote to property owners and tax payers, and it reminded me of this:

    You have no right to an uninformed opinion

    Patriotism is not the last refuge of the scoundrel. “I have a right to my opinion” is. It’s amazing how often people, backed into a corner by logic or evidence, will resort to “I have a right to my opinion,” asserting their right to cling to their opinion despite the evidence.

    You have no right to an uninformed opinion. If you are going to hold an opinion on an issue, you have a moral obligation to make it an informed opinion. You have no right to go into a voting booth armed with half-baked, unsupported opinions. I’d love to see literacy tests come back - tough ones. The best idea I ever heard was that voters should have to recite the Bill of Rights verbatim before being allowed to vote. Failing that, we could attach a ten-question multiple choice exam to each ballot. Votes would be weighted by percent correct. With electronic voting, we could scramble the questions to prevent cheating. Certainly if you’re too dumb or slack to follow an arrow from the candidate’s name to the correct punch hole, or make sure the ballot is correctly done, you have no right to complain about the outcome.

    Think about it. Would campaign finance reform be necessary if people only held informed opinions? How could any amount of money make a bad idea good? Money isn’t the problem; superficial, uninformed, lazy people are.

  47. WayneB Says:

    mighty - I would believe that it was staged, but I have heard live “Man on the Street Thursdays” on Hannity where they did the same thing during the last election and asked people about Kerry’s running mate, “Stu Ped”. Got the same kind of answers.

    Carmela - I love that joke, but I’ve told it to Liberals (my wife, for one), and they just go, “Heh,” and look confused.

  48. lk Says:

    The guy said he was buying a business that was going to make 250K per year. Lots a luck fella. He’s counting his chickens (250K) before they hatch. He’s already bought the ski boat and RV. People buying businesses always assume they are going to make it big - about 2 out of 3 go bust, (thanks to big government of course).

  49. castocreations hzk Says:

    oooooo I just got called a Racist on my other blog. WOOHOO!!! I have arrived.

    [Heh! I have written a whole comment over there in response to that knucklehead but I can't post it because I don't have a Google or OpenID thingy that your comment box wants. Urgh. I might just have to write a whole post about it here instead. - Rachel]

  50. Sheila Says:

    Rachel, thank you for describing what is in the videos you post … I am one of the three remaining Americans who still use dial-up internet and thus don’t watch videos online. Much appreciated - as is your site in general. Keep up the good work!

  51. snarkolepsy Says:

    Um… I’m sure Obama would be the first to pay more taxes. Right? What does the president get paid again? 400k?

  52. No, not THAT Glenn Says:

    YW.

    Physics Geek, Dr Helen ponders whether it’s Jon Galt time, id est, if you work hard and make a lot of money, it’s time to cut that shit out.

  53. Amelia in Tx Says:

    Hope the test goes well!

  54. gd Says:

    oooooo I just got called a Racist on my other blog. WOOHOO!!! I have arrived.

    Ha-ha! Welcome to the club, castocreations. I got called a “right winger” on a blog this past Sunday. I’m not sure what is meant by “right winger” these days, but I’m pretty sure it’s not “center-leaning Libertarian registered with no party affiliation”. LOL

  55. Obloodyhell Says:

    > You have no right to an uninformed opinion. If you are going to hold an opinion on an issue, you have a moral obligation to make it an informed opinion.

    Not exactly correct — “Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one”. We all have opinions. The chief question, as you note, is how informed it is.

    While everyone has a right to their opinion, there is a moral responsibility to not *express* it if you haven’t taken the time and effort needed to validate it.

    “You have a right to free speech. You have a responsibility to shut the f*** up.”

  56. Viktor Nehring Says:

    I’m with Heinlein on this one: if you can’t solve a simple quadratric equation, you can’t vote.

  57. Joe Doaks Says:

    what the plumber should have said.

    Actual –

    Plumber: You’re going to raise my taxes, aren’t you?

    Obama: I don’t want to penalize your success, I just want the people behind you to have a chance at the same success. When we spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.

    End of clip. What I WISH had followed –

    Plumber: Are you freakin kidding me? You talk like success is an accident. Yeah, I have some success, but I got there in spite of, not because of, politicians like you. I had to learn a trade, plus how to capitalize and market and run a business, as I went along. Then I had to go out and do it. I went into debt up to my wife’s wedding ring. I busted my hump 12+ hours a day for a decade so I can stand on my own feet and meet my obligations like a man - including kicking in roughly half of everything I earn to you and your kind. Now you’re telling me the ‘folks behind me’ with their hands in their pockets, -deserve- a piece of this?

    Listen, buddy: Success isn’t luck. It’s no accident. It’s a lot of damn work. It’s not something you deserve. It’s something you go out and get, by serving people’s needs, and having Faith that people will see value in your efforts. It’s a way of looking at life. That’s the difference between us. I am an American.
    .

  58. jana Says:

    When I saw that plumber clip, all I could think was “why did they cut off his response”? Is it because after the Socialist gist of Obama’s words sunk in, he kicked Obama in the balls and said something to the effect of “keep your socialist mitts off of my pie!”? I’m sure he didn’t do that, but, admit it, it would have been awesome!

    Then, after hearing the Howard Stern thing, I curled up into a fetal position and wept for the end of civilization as we now know it.

  59. BJM Says:

    Anyone see a problem with this image?

    Snorfle.

  60. felicity Says:

    shrug

  61. jana Says:

    BJM:
    Har har!!! It’s supposed to be a ghost, cuz it’s Halloween, get it? But, in reality, it’s just showing Palin to be the RACIST Klansman that she REALLY is, what with wearing that obviously bigoted white jacket. What a clever little play by the brilliant Obama-bot….They’re so SOPHISTICATED!

    I wish to God I lived in a swing state so that I could maybe sway a few folks away from this lunacy. But, much to my dismay, I live in fucking Chicago, ILLINOIS! Birthplace of the Obama-nation. Yep, Bethlehem got nothin’ on Chicago when it comes to birthing Messiahs….

  62. felicity Says:

    BJM,
    Baaaaad, bad racist!
    I’ve been waiting for the “racism!” shoe to drop on this item.

  63. Terentia Says:

    Just before the last election, I had a conversation with a relative who said, “the first thing tyrants do is disarm the population. I support the 2nd ammendment. That’s why I always vote democrat.” No amount of proof was sufficient to dissuade her. She didn’t know and didn’t care. Democrats are good and republicans are bad and that was all there was to it. Sas thing is, she’s not exceptional in her ignorance.

  64. Fred the Fourth Says:

    (Joe Doaks really said it all, but anyway…)
    Obama said “We need to spread the wealth around.”

    Look at those two tiny monosyllables. “We”. Not terribly dangerous by itself, but carrying the implicit threat of force behind all government action.

    And the real subtle, deadly indication of socialist thought: “The”.

    “Say what?” you say. Yes, “the”. What would an honest person have said instead? Why, he’d have said “your”. As in “Your wealth”.

    “The” makes it seem like wealth is just there, ready to be shared out. Joe Doaks explained how wrong that is, with style.

    All I want to point out is that deadly “the” and the deeply un-American mindset that prefers that word.

  65. felicity Says:

    This, particularly the sections on “plunder”, should be required reading in the prep course for the voting exam!

    Walter Williams summarizes the message rather nicely here!

  66. Gasgwar Says:

    The uninformed voter, related to the undecided voter but much more dangerous.

    Regarding the Howard Stern clip, it reminded me of an old Man Show bit where they set up a booth and got people to sign a petition to end women’s suffrage. I put it up on my blog here.

  67. Nylecoj Says:

    We don’t know anything about the business he intends to buy. He may be buying an existing business that he works at and may very well know exactly what he will make. That is not the point, the point is that we as small business owners will be taxed so that other folks can have what we earn.

    lk Says:

    The guy said he was buying a business that was going to make 250K per year. Lots a luck fella. He’s counting his chickens (250K) before they hatch. He’s already bought the ski boat and RV. People buying businesses always assume they are going to make it big - about 2 out of 3 go bust, (thanks to big government of course).

  68. Tracey Says:

    Sounds to me that Obama wants people to bend over and take it IN the behind…..if you know what I mean. God, what a homophobic cliche to use. Damn me to hell!

  69. hissyfit Says:

    The fanatical, the greedy and the totally ignorant are promised what they think they want. No wonder Obama’s ahead in the polls. Personally, though, I’d be happy if the above would only register and vote once.

  70. Bill (Mamba1-0) Says:

    Off track, but just a thought;
    Friends don’t let friends shoot mouse guns.

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  71. Kuso JiJi Says:

    If he really believed in spreading the wealth around he would be leading by example.

    Barack Acorn Obama lives in a two million dollar mansion in a tony Che’cago neighborhood. I wonder what kind of house this plumber is able to afford yet be expected to spread some of his wealth around.

    Spreading the wealth around is just a fancy way of saying “I am using your money to buy votes from all those lazy ass people expecting handouts”.

  72. MrSpkr Says:

    Dammit, I remember the Carter administration. Why on EARTH would we want to go through that again? Unfortunately, it looks like we are doomed to repeat that sad episode in our history.

    Sigh. I wonder if that makes Sarah Palin the new Ronald Reagan?

  73. The Monster Says:

    Redheaded Infidel:

    http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/governor-sarah-palin-talks-rush-limbaugh-audio-10-14-08

  74. jana Says:

    Barack Acorn Obama lives in a two million dollar mansion in a tony Che’cago neighborhood. I wonder what kind of house this plumber is able to afford yet be expected to spread some of his wealth around.

    To be fair, the only reason Obama bought that house was through a shady deal with convicted felon Tony Rezko…. Honest to God, just ONE of the scandals this assclown has participated in would sink the campaign of any other politician.

    But, the RACISM!! card seems to trump all else in this election…

    And to suggest he lead by example… I’m pretty sure that the fair Michelle would have a few words to say about someone trying to take a piece of her “pie”. Which, by the way, that cushy $300K job she has used to be a $100K job. She was given a 200% raise by the hospital after they received state funds from, wait for it…. State Senator Barack Obama.

  75. Larry Faren Says:

    Kevin M said:
    …it just might be because you’re lying through your conservative teeth.

    That’s what they’re now calling the “Bradley Effect”, named for Tom B’s failed campaign for Gov-of-California when he was mayor of LA. Seems a lot of folks were lying to pollsters, saying, “Oh, Hell, yeah, I’m gonna vote for that black guy!” So Tom’s people got the shock of their lives when he soundly LOST.

  76. herb Says:

    Listen, buddy: Success isn’t luck. It’s no accident. It’s a lot of damn work. It’s not something you deserve. It’s something you go out and get, by serving people’s needs, and having Faith that people will see value in your efforts. It’s a way of looking at life. That’s the difference between us. I am an American.

    Thank you Joe Doaks!

  77. rickl Says:

    I was at work today and just happened to go outside on my break when Sarah called Rush, so I got to hear the whole thing. Her call lasted about 10 minutes. She called on a cell phone, got cut off, and had to call back.

    What struck me the most was how goshdarn cheerful she sounded. She really sounds like she’s having a ball with this campaign.

    And that put things in perspective for me. Many of the political blogs I visit are full of gloom, doom, frustration and foreboding. I’m as guilty of it as anyone.

    So I’m going to try really hard to keep her cheerfulness in mind as we hurtle down the home stretch towards Nov. 4th. It won’t be easy, since I tend to be a Gloomy Gus by nature, but if she can have fun when she’s in the eye of the storm, the least I can do is to try to avoid despairing.

  78. BJM Says:

    Jana:

    No, it’s not about Palin which is why it’s ironic that Obama is smiling so broadly.

    What was the early rap on Obama from his peeps? That he didn’t get it?

    Look up the word “spook” in the urban dictionary.

    One of Hollywood’s longest running racial stereotypes was that of an African-American man, (see Stepin Fetchit in “The Galloping Ghost” or Mantan Moreland’s wide-eyed, scared-to-death chauffeur, Birmingham Brown, in the Charlie Chan movies) terrified of ghosts. It was dehumanizing and emasculating and many actors wouldn’t take such roles and didn’t work for decades.

    My point is that Obama isn’t quite as sensitive as his campaign portrays as they smear conservatives with the “r” word.

  79. Carol Says:

    I disagree. I don’t think there should be a reading test. There should be a math test. To learn math, you have to be able to read as you don’t simply learn directly from staring at equations.

    Require that anyone who wants to vote solve a quadratic equation. We can even make it easy and just make problems that have integer solutions.

    This is another Heinlein idea, I think, and between this and making a class called TANSTAAFL mandatory in the senior year of high school things should shape up mighty quick.

  80. mightysamurai Says:

    Not exactly correct — “Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one”. We all have opinions. The chief question, as you note, is how informed it is.

    So I’m wrong……except when I’m right? Make up your mind.

  81. castocreations hzk Says:

    Carol…noooooooo…I am pathetic at math! Pathetic I say. I dropped out of high school PRE-calc.

    The really scary thing? I work for a financial company and deal with numbers all day long. hahahahaha Thank God for Excel.

  82. Difranco Says:

    LOL..

    dfwmtx , I loved the TANSTAAFL so I made a little site for it here!

  83. mightysamurai Says:

    Require that anyone who wants to vote solve a quadratic equation. We can even make it easy and just make problems that have integer solutions.

    With respect to Heinlein, I never understood the point of that requirement.

    Precisely how does solving a quadratic equation prove you’re smart enough to vote?

  84. hM Says:

    dogette:

    It’s entirely possible to sit on your ass in a socialist country and get money. At least 10 percent of the German population has found that a great way to live.

    As soon as I can I’m going to get myself another copy of Atlas Shrugged (lost my last one). I swear, if the producers in this country decided to break away and make their own society I’d totally pull border guard for them. As long as they paid me I would totally keep the starving hippies out (and have a hell of a lot of fun kicking the shit out of the ones that wouldn’t take the hint). Ayn Rand is probably spinning in her grave what with all the recent goings on.

    Oh, yeah, and Obama is a fucktard. That’s right. I said it and I own it. Kiss my ass, you race-baiting piece of shit. Kiss it!

  85. maya Says:

    Gasgwar:

    I love and remember that bit fondly. My favorite part is that it was a MAN who finally said cut it out knuckleheads.

  86. BJM Says:

    So I’m wrong……except when I’m right?

    I think you’re ready to run for office.

  87. jana Says:

    If anyone’s interested in the plumber’s reaction, he did a telephone interview with Neil Cavuto today… here’s the scoop

  88. physics geek Says:

    Precisely how does solving a quadratic equation prove you’re smart enough to vote?

    I dunno about solving a quadratic equation, but I can derive the quadratic formula from the quadratic equation. Maybe that should be the test.

  89. btenney Says:

    Since paying Farmers not to farm has turned out so successfully, Obama proposes to pay Idiots, Dopers and Video Gamers to stay out of the workforce.
    He didn’t say that exactly but that is how I interpret his comment to the Plumber.

  90. felicity Says:

    The Plumber has a name: Joe Wurzelbacher. And he’s been interviewed by Neil Cavuto and at greater length here. And now I wish I could have his babies!

  91. gd Says:

    I loved hearing Mr. Wurzelbacher on Cavuto! I particularly liked it that he was a regular, working class guy, just trying to get ahead on his own. So often it seems that Democrats want to portray anyone who doesn’t buy Obama’s socialist programs as wealthy, out-of-touch elitists who have gotten theirs and selfishly don’t want to let anyone else share the success. Mr. W. is my idea of living the American Dream.

  92. SSG King Says:

    “The plumber in the video is like me looking in a mirror. We small business owners built our business one customer at a time. Nobody (GOVT)gave us anything. We took the risk, bet our ass and everything else (Home, Pickup, Harley, Retirement Acct., Etc.) and made it work. Redistribution of wealth??? Not today and damn sure not any time in the future. If those behind me want what I have they can get off their ass and work for it!!!”

    exactly.Sounds like what I tell some folks who are pissed at me for drawing a pension from the army.When I ask them,gee,just HOW many years did you spend in uniform?oh,ZERO?And you have HOW many combat tours?Oh,that would be ZERO again?they shut their yaps

  93. Obloodyhell Says:

    > Anyone see a problem with this image?

    One real spook and a mock up of a spook?

    :oP

    Ooop. Just earned my racist card.

  94. Obloodyhell Says:

    > MrSpkr Says: I remember the Carter administration. Why on EARTH would we want to go through that again?

    a) Not enough people remember the Carter Admin these days.

    b) Too many people don’t interpret it as having anything to do with Carter — otherwise, people would not take him as seriously as they do.

    c) Not enough people grasp the flaws of the Carter admin as being flaws. The Iran Hostage situation was entirely due to his Soft Power approach to the whole situation. And even when he DID finally decide to take a hard power approach, he screwed that up by trying to be too damned magnanimous to the differing services.

  95. Kelly Pennington Says:

    Holy Jesus. We are so screwed. I brought up the required to take a test before you can vote thing at work and you would’ve thought I had taken a big CRAP on my desk.

    Because I like to live on the edge, I brought up the fact that I think you should have to have a license to have a child. Talk about heads spinning and eyes popping out of sockets. That’s against our rights?

    Well what about my right to keep the money I make instead of giving it to people who sit on their asses and procreate to get more of my money.

    Anyway, I’m still alive to tell the story, but in a workplace full of liberals…

    We are doomed. But hey, I still have my health, if not my healthcare.

  96. SSG King Says:

    “Just before the last election, I had a conversation with a relative who said, “the first thing tyrants do is disarm the population. I support the 2nd ammendment. That’s why I always vote democrat.” No amount of proof was sufficient to dissuade her. She didn’t know and didn’t care. Democrats are good and republicans are bad and that was all there was to it. Sas thing is, she’s not exceptional in her ignorance”

    did she provide a list of staunch defenders of the 2A from the democratic party?