“What parties might be liable”? THE GEESE YOU IDIOT.

Many US Airways (LCC) passengers who endured a crash landing in the Hudson River 12 days ago say they appreciate the $5,000 that the airline has offered — but some say it’s not enough.

Joe Hart, a salesman from Charlotte who suffered a bloody nose and bruises, says he “would like to be made whole for the incident.”

It’s too soon after the accident to determine what emotional distress he has suffered, he says.

…Hart says he has talked to a lawyer in North Carolina but hasn’t decided whether to take any legal action.

“I want to see how things play out with US Airways,” he says. “I’m hopeful US Airways understands the significance of the incident.”

Kreindler & Kreindler, a New York law firm that has represented plaintiffs in crashes, says it has been contacted by several passengers on the US Airways flight.

The firm’s lawyers are determining what injuries and emotional distress passengers may have suffered, and what parties might be liable under New York state law, says Noah Kushlefsky, a partner in the firm.

Litigious assholes.

I understand the airline paying for lost luggage and tickets but for crissakes, this incident wasn’t their fault. I can’t believe anyone is even having a discussion about the airline being liable for emotional distress. God, I hate people.


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101 comments on ““What parties might be liable”? THE GEESE YOU IDIOT.

  1. N. O'Brain

    What’s the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?

    One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder.

    The other is a fish.

  2. Zion's Paladin

    Just when you manage to salvage some small piece of hope for the future of America…along comes someone who completely supports your cynical outlook.

    Granted, my patience with these asinine lawsuits ran out with the lady who spilled McDonald’s coffee on her lap.

    The Bard had it right. First thing, we kill all the lawyers.

  3. Erin_Coda

    Dude, you survived a PLANE CRASH. Into the HUDSON RIVER. In JANUARY. And you did so because some guy you’d probably never met (the pilot), and a crew who probably gets paid a lot less than you do (look it up), decided to take responsibility for your life. If you don’t like the way they did it, why don’t you go take a brief, cold swim and decide how you like the alternative.

    Or just google “Air Florida Crash”. Then apply your knees to the floor.

  4. amy

    The passengers should be happy to be alive with little to no injuries – I would gladly take that in exchange for a couple of minutes of fleeting panic. They should be offering up their homes, savings, and first born children to the pilot who saved their asses.

  5. I worked at that damn McDonald’s where the coffee incident happened. She was an idiot to begin with and the only reason she got the payout was the jury said “Gee, we can stick it to some big corporation”

    Assholes. And double that for these douche bags that are looking to sue someone. They’ll put the pilot up on the stand and do everything they can to make it look like he must have done something wrong to cause the accident.

    Oh, and Rachel, since you will need TV and phone service over in the UK I think

  6. People (in general) are selfish, self-centered, narrow-minded, ungrateful oafs. Lawyers (in general) are even worse. No one on that flight should get one red cent more from the airline than the tidy little sum offered for their inconvenience. Don’t look at it as a trauma, people, look at it as God giving you the opportunity to reflect on your life in a meaningful way. Sheesh!

    Hey, Mr. Greedy, what’s the bill for that? What is something like that worth? …no way I could be a preacher or a priest…ungrateful boobs…

  7. Mary Jo

    If a judge does not throw this case out the minute it hits his or her desk I have lost ALL hope for the future of this country. Seriously, this is total, utter BS.

  8. Ed R

    I have suffered from Joe Hart’s vulgar display of greed. I would like to be made whole from the incident but it’s too soon to tell what emotional stress I have suffered from it.

    Maybe if I am just allowed to give Joe Hart another nosebleed and more bruises, I would be made whole again.

  9. This Joe Hart guy will be suing over the emotional distress he will be under from all the hate mail that will be coming his way soon.

    I like how Miller said it:

    look at it as God giving you the opportunity to reflect on your life in a meaningful way.

  10. Also, this:

    Kreindler & Kreindler…says it has been contacted by several passengers on the US Airways flight.

    I was wondering how many of those passengers were solicited by the law firm? Or maybe “gently encouraged” to talk to a lawyer. “Hey I know a good lawyer, you should talk to Kreindler & Kreindler.”

  11. Tapestry Cat

    Okay, this kind of thinking gets on that tiniest last nerve twitching in my longest finger. Joe won the life lottery, for crying out loud, but that’s not enough? How many people standing on the floating wing of that downed plane, frigid water lapping up around them, thought, “Yes, my ship’s come in!” Joe, apparently, and how many others will follow his annoying lead?

    “I want to see how things play out with US Airways,” he says. “I’m hopeful US Airways understands the significance of the incident.”

    I think we all understand its significance! I hate to break it to you buddy, but it’s true, accidents happen. They are not meant to fulfill your financial dreams. I can’t believe the expiration date on some people’s gratitude. This lawsuit is for the birds!

    They better leave Captain “Sully” alone!

  12. Bad Penny

    I have suffered from Joe Hart’s vulgar display of greed. I would like to be made whole from the incident but it’s too soon to tell what emotional stress I have suffered from it.

    Me too! We need a class action suit against him.

  13. Given the fact that there are issues with the engines going back months, I would expect at least one lawsuit to force the FAA to release the full and complete inspection reports. Compressor stalls are serious business, and a bird strike could aggravate a prone-to-stall engine, no?

    It might just turn out like another famous lawsuit people still don’t understand…the McDonald’s hot coffee suit. Turns out Mickey D’s was doing something wrong and changed company-wide policy after that. People still mock it though, because they don’t know the case.

    On the other hand I want to break the guy’s nose that said he needed to be “made whole.” Fucking lawyerspeak. He’s not a lawyer, he doesn’t need to be made whole, he needs someone to kick him in his hole. Either hole, pie or ass.

  14. GoodKarma

    I just read the full article in USA Today. At the end of the article, two passengers are quoted as just being happy to be alive, like this woman.

    Amber Wells of Charlotte says she’s so thankful to have survived and to be with her 9-month-old daughter, Rayley, that she hasn’t had time to think about her belongings.

    She says she lost $2,000 of nursing equipment and a laptop computer, as well as a checked bag and a carry-on bag.

    “Everything that’s gone can be replaced,” says Wells, 34, a senior manager for NASCAR. “My life cannot be replaced.”

    This woman make me feel that there are some decent, rational human beings left in the world.

  15. Michael

    You are in a room with a gun with two bullets and in walks a lawyer, Osama Bin Laden, and (enter other favorite person to hate – Kim Jong Ill, etc.).

    What do you do?

    Answer, shoot the lawyer twice. . .

  16. teqjack

    Go after the big bucks.

    No, not the geese: their enablers. The State (and county and city) for not doing something about it. The EPA for not allowing the State/county/city to do uch about it. Enviro and animal groups for taking everybody to court to stop anyone from doing anything about it.

    Last week I downloaded a segment of MDA [Medical Defense Australia] in which a “pain and suffering” case was against the doctor who, confronted with a six year old who had managed to get glue on her eyes, cut the eyelashes. No, that was not the problem – Mommy suffered because she did not realize the lashes would be trimmed and had a flashback to having her braids cut off by her brother when she was ten – she thought the doc should have checked for this possibility and warned her to leave the room…

  17. SteveH

    The Geese flock could concievably obtain counsel seeking damages from any passengers who profited from the demise of their brethren.

  18. mer

    If I were the judge and these idiots came before me:
    Did they reimburse you for your luggage and tickets?

    Yes?

    You are alive, did you send the pilot a bottle of 50 year old single malt Scotch? No? Ungrateful SOBs. I’m holding you in contempt. 25 years no parole.

  19. Tim in Phoenix

    I think the airlines should create an industry wide “Shit List”. With the name Joe Hart at the top. Let him take a bus next time he needs to get somewhere!

  20. I really wonder if Joe Hart bought himself a McMansion and now that the bottom has gone out on the market sees this as a way of making up for the money he lost.

    I’m going to bet that his view is “Well I’m only taking it from the insurance companies not the pilot or anything”

    Like somehow that makes it better.

  21. Wondering Woman

    Hey Joe, don’t forget Bush. We know he’s caused hurricanes and floods and probably pet food recalls — just because he’s not president anymore doesn’t mean he’s innocent and Cheney probably trained the geese so don’t forget to include those guys. Joe thinks he might be emotionally scarred? What about his family? When they heard the plane went down they were probably dreaming how much a dead son, husband, brother was worth. But to live! Now he’s worthless…… Better luck next time, we’ll keep our fingers crossed.

  22. gd

    Geese are badass, I tell ya. Anyone remember the roller coaster incident with Fabio and the goose several years ago? I’d sue the geese. They’re out to get us humans. Conspiracy!

  23. Sharkman

    I’m a lawyer, and stories like these make me think two things: First, I desperately need to change professions before my soul is lost forever, and second, perhaps I and all my ilk (little known rule of thumb when talking about lawyers: Always use the word “ilk”) should probably immediately be exterminated for the good of the human race.

    Not that I’m volunteering, mind you, but I think I would understand when “they” (whomever “they” might be) are leading me to the lime pits.

  24. Joe Hart, a salesman from Charlotte who suffered a bloody nose and bruises, says he “would like to be made whole for the incident.”

    Made whole? WTF? I think he is wHOLE, an A$_HOLE.

  25. Marc

    Well, if Joe were in the room with me, he’d have another bloody nose.

    If you know what I mean.

    The miracle is that no one died. God protected this asshole and now he wants CHA-CHING!

    I guess I should stop being surprised at selfish pricks.

  26. Hollowpoint

    He got a bloody nose and some bruises… and doesn’t think $5,000 is enough.

    Perhaps the judge should inflict some real emotional trama to put things in perspective for him. Paying all court costs and attorney fees incurred by the airline would be a start. A hefty fine for the greedy asshole lawyer who’d waste the court’s time in bringing the case should be on the table too.

    Then let the pilot give him another bloody nose, but for free.

  27. Mrs. Hill

    I read the whole thing, and I’m with Ed and Penny, and Tim in Phoenix!

    Make that whiny titty baby ride the bus (not Amtrak — no taxpayer subsidized transportation for you, lawsuit boy!) until he begs to be allowed to fly again — ingrate!

  28. I’d like to sit on the jury, because Joe, I think US Airways “understands the significance of the incident.”

    You are a pompous tool, Mr Hart. Maybe you should understand the significance of the incident, too, and know it doesn’t mean you hit the Lottery. Perhaps a visit to your local house of worship, unlikely you have a particular one, to drop off a couple shekels, is in order.

  29. That photo is awesome! =) Megan Kelly on FOX lectured some scum sucking lawyer on her show the other day. I loved it. :)

  30. buzzion

    You are in a room with a gun with two bullets and in walks a lawyer, Osama Bin Laden, and (enter other favorite person to hate – Kim Jong Ill, etc.).

    What do you do?

    Answer, shoot the lawyer twice. . .

    Then beat the other two to death with the gun.

  31. fargus

    Me too! We need a class action suit against him.

    Make that a no-class action suit.

    JimK, what exactly was McDonalds doing wrong? Serving their coffee hot? The corrective action was to lower the temperature to tepid, to prevent future morons from suing for the same thing. Corrective action does not always mean someone did something wrong. It’s just CYA, and another brick in the wall of building a nation of wussies.

  32. Sumie

    Who do people sue for earthquakes?

    Wouldn’t that be the owners of the building you’re in?

    What’s fair is fair.

  33. Hollowpoint

    laughykate Says:

    Who do people sue for earthquakes?

    The contractor who built the building they were in. The city for not having earthquake-proof building codes. Emergency services for not providing advanced warning. Apartment owners for not having an “Emergency Earthquake Plan” and earthquake-proof shelters. Doctors who treated the wounded.

    I’m sure a scumbag ambulance-chaser could think of many more.

  34. Playing Devil’s advocate here (pardon the expression): I think JimK might be right.

    Take, for example, the infamous McDonald’s suit. The news jumped on it as some sort of ridiculous lawsuit and a sign that something’s gone horribly wrong; what was lost in the shuffle, though, was that McDonald’s had a company-wide policy of selling coffee that was hot enough to cause third degree burns and that it viewed lawsuits regarding its coffee as a “cost of business”. This, of course, is why we have punitive damages in the first place – that way, a company can’t just arbitrarily decide to include “settle 1,000 leukemia cases a year” or something equally ridiculous as a cost of doing business and remain profitable.

    Now, as for this case, based on what little I know about the situation (i.e. there was a plane, it flew into some geese, it crashed in the Hudson), I doubt that US Airways has much liability in the matter. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody tried to sue the Airport Authority for negligence for failing to keep the geese clear, or some other similar tack.

    Of course, the enviros that forced the airport to abandon goose mitigation measures will never be considered “liable” because they have no “direct” control… though, it would be absolutely hilarious if we changed the law to allow lobbyists to assume liability if their desired laws materially and negatively affect someone.

  35. Schrodinger's Other Cat

    Scotch? No? Ungrateful SOBs. I’m holding you in contempt. 25 years no parole.

    This. +1000.
    ‘Course common sense judges CAN be difficult to come by.

  36. A Recovering Liberal

    David Colborne, how do you know that enviros forced the airport to abandon goose mitigation measures?? I couldn’t find anything online.

    article says “preliminary reports indicated that Flight 1549 was several miles out from La Guardia Airport, at 3,000 to 4,000 feet, when the pilot radioed that there had been a bird strike.”

    The bird strike took place away from LaGuardia, where — to the best of my knowledge — federally mandated mitigation measures have been in effect.

  37. (OT)

    Mrs Hill:

    from a couple posts ago, you couldn’t believe I didn’t know about the extra coolness on Cheezburger. You thought I was humoring the old lady. Well, I humbly direct you to to show you just how unobservant I am.

  38. David: man I wish we could sue lobbyists. It would make that “profession” a lot less desirable, and hopefully we would end up with less of them.

  39. “I’m hopeful US Airways understands the significance of the incident.”

    Gaaah! Isn’t being alive significant enough for you, asshole??

  40. When this plane was going down, I bet none of them thought, “I’m going to SUE!!!” I bet they were thinking of their loved ones and hoping they would live and not suffer too much pain.

    Now that’s said and done, it appears that they have forgotten what is important. Instead of being thankful for a skilled pilot that saved ALL their asses, they turn ugly again and think only of themselves and how much money they can make.

    No wonder I despise so many people.

  41. Jill Says:

    I think they should sue Canada for negligently losing control of their geese.

    Please put Washington State down on that class-action, as well. FRACK ME there are a lot of them around here in Western Washington.

    And since no one can discharge firearms within city limits there’s no stopping them. My God, their poop is EVERYWHERE.

    They are winged agents of Satan; that’s what they are… and they also happen to be Eddie Bauer’s logo, too.

    *sigh*

  42. Sam

    David Colborne Says: “Take, for example, the infamous McDonald’s “Hot Coffee” suit. The news jumped on it as some sort of ridiculous lawsuit and a sign that something’s gone horribly wrong; what was lost in the shuffle, though, was that McDonald’s had a company-wide policy of selling coffee that was hot enough to cause third degree burns and that it viewed lawsuits regarding its coffee as a “cost of business”.”

    If you want good coffee, then the water should be just below boiling. I assure you that if you spill a cup of just-brewed coffee on you at my house, it will burn you.

  43. I think we need to go out with and start clearing them out. The damn Canadian Geese have declared war on us and I say we take the fight to them!!!

    So Jamfish, can we sue Eddie Bauer too then??

  44. I read somewhere that the geese ARE protected, and in fact, Charles Schumer had a part in it. The article even had a link to Schumer’s website, where he bragged about getting the funds for whateverthehell it was for the geese. That’s probably been airbrushed by now, however.

  45. That’s it, I’m not flying again until all planes are equipped with Goose Detection Sonar. Then I can sue the airline for having faulty GDS when we are forced to crash land when we get taken down by a goose.

    Hang on, that’s right, except I’ll most probably be dead.

    I mean if, in the game of fate, you were asked, ‘You can either win the lottery, or survive a plane crash – which one is it going to be?’

    Honestly you’d think those people would be counting their lucky stars, not their money.

  46. Honeydew

    gd, I didn’t remember that Fabio incident. At a glance, I’d say he should be named Rachel Lucas Hero of the Day for not suing.

    Jill:
    “I think they should sue Canada for negligently losing control of their geese.”

    “Negligent” my derriere. It was a deliberate air strike. This is precisely what Joe Biden was talking about re “early tests.”

    “Blame Canada…”

  47. Larry J

    “I’m hopeful US Airways understands the significance of the incident.”

    Oh, I’m sure US Airways understands just fine. First, they lost an airliner that’s probably worth at least $20-30 million. Insurance might pay for that, but I doubt it’ll pay for the lost revenue that plane would’ve produced. Second, they apparently paid each of the ~150 people on board $5000 each. That’s another $750,000. Third, there are significant expenses they’ll have to endure as part of the accident investigation. Some of that may be mitigated by the good publicity about how skillful the crew was in an emergency.

  48. John

    Fucking assholes should be thanking their Creator and giving whatever they collect to the pilot.

    A simple google search of commercial airliner crash survival rates should convince them that they could ebay the horseshoe they pull out of their ass, and a fistful of the four leaf clovers they find it sitting in for more than the 5K offered, and avoid the bad mojo and ill will created by suing over an event they survive.

    Honestly, this is modern America. These people suck.

    Emotional trauma my eye.

  49. Paul_In_Houston

    Good God!!!

    Just after that pilot restores one’s faith in the human race, along comes THESE dips to flush it down the toilet.

  50. Can you imagine trying to seat a jury to hear this lawsuit?

    Plaintiff Atty: “Tell me about how you feel about this case.”

    Juror candidate 1: “How can US Air be at fault for an act of god?”
    Juror candidate 2: “Isn’t being alive good enough?”
    JC3: “WTF?”

    JC 84: “This is ludicrous.”

    JC 273: “You and your client are scum-sucking bottom feeders.”

    JC 442: “FOAD.”

    The end result, of course, will be a jury that will find US Air liable, because the plaintiff’s attorney will keep dismissing people that display any shreds of common sense until he finds 12 idiots, even if he has to go through a 500 member jury pool to do it.

  51. My Awesome Mix Tape #6

    I know, no politics…but:

    How much you want to bet majority of those who were first to think “Cha Ching!” they hit the jackpot by surviving this crash are of the more Liberal mindset? Victim mentality over and over and over.

    Just like all of the warning labels on booze (do not drink booze while yer pregnant, idiot), cigarettes (yup, good chance smoking will kill ya), and even eggs (this product contains egg and may cause an allergic reaction to those who are allergic to eggs….I swear, that’s real) the airlines need to have each passenger sign on the dotted line that they understand the ramifications involved in putting themselves in a long metal tube that is then hurled at 400 miles an hour through the air. There should be NO pay off for life’s choices.

    Enough with the damn lawsuits. I think 5000 bucks is too generous. Lawsuits are not like the lottery. At least with the lottery it is voluntary to participate. Lawsuits we ALL get to pay for those.

  52. Dave in SD

    I’m waiting for PETA to file the class-action lawsuit against US Airways on behalf of the geese that died in the crash.

    Unfortunately, as others have said, there is probably a jury out there stupid enough to think that they’re right.

  53. I’ve ridden out some rough flights and landings on Chinooks, Black Hawks, and C-130s in Afghanistan.

    Nobody was even shooting at this ass hat when he arrived at his destination. What’s he whining about?

    Life’s tough. Get a helmet and shut the hell up.

    Sig

  54. Ed R

    Everyone in teh media is still looking for someone to blame and can’t beleive there’s not ‘fault’ anywwhere. They tried putting doubt on teh pilot by publishing stories about hwo he ‘refused’ to go to two different airpors before he hit teh water- and the clear implication was tha the was planning on hitting the water thw whole time. fuckers.
    When that didn’t catch they rtied to blame the ATC for not steering the airplane through the flocks of geese on their radar.
    fuckign assholes- it takes a lot of luck to do that with any accuracy and in teh end it’s still just a guess- these geese are definitely NOT tuned to the ATC’s freqeuncy.

    So the media is ASTOUNDED that an incident such as this has occurred AND THERE WERE NO MISTAKES MADE.
    Fucking assholes.

  55. I’m the sister of a lawyer and the mother of another, who married a lawyer.

    Believe me McDonald’s was wrong. Third degree burns requiring 8 days of hospitalization, skin grafts, and two years of follow-up treatment is NOT frivolous.

    She originally asked McDonald’s to cover her medical expenses without asking for punitive damages, but they offered $800. A hundred dollars a day? That’s ridiculous.

    Imagine how much money McDonald’s would have saved if they’d paid her hospital bill and said “We’re sorry.”

    That would be the equivalent of US Airways has done in compensating passengers for loss of luggage and inconvenience without being sued. Or in their, case without being asked for, as far as I can tell.

    The scummy lawyers are those using class action suite to get themselves millions of dollars in attorneys fees, while the “wronged” get a coupon for a $1.

  56. ChrisN

    I say, let ’em sue!

    – the airline’s broke

    – their insurance company is probably broke

    Hell, the geese probably have more capacity to pay damages.

    FWIW, if I’d been on that plane, I wouldn’t be looking for more money than is being offered… but I might ask the airline to give me permanent elite status. Not because I think I’d deserve it. Just because it wouldn’t hurt to ask.

    Just out of curiosity…do you suppose the elite flyers got their luggage out of the Hudson first?

  57. naleta

    maya Says:

    (OT)

    Mrs Hill:

    from a couple posts ago, you couldn’t believe I didn’t know about the extra coolness on Cheezburger. You thought I was humoring the old lady. Well, I humbly direct you to this post to show you just how unobservant I am.

    Don’t feel too badly maya. My husband has done the same sort of thing, and then claimed that because he wasn’t wearing his glasses, he didn’t realize it was an already opened, resealable package.

  58. Patterico called this the day it happened. He said it would be inevitable someone would sue. Personally, I think anyone who should be grateful to be ALIVE should be satisfied with THAT.

  59. gd

    naleta Says:
    My husband has done the same sort of thing, and then claimed that because he wasn’t wearing his glasses, he didn’t realize it was an already opened, resealable package.

    This has happened at my house, too. I’m not going to name names but suffice it to say that I wear my glasses when preparing food. (Otherwise, I probably wouldn’t be able to find the kitchen.)

  60. Pam Maltzman

    If I had been in that incident (crash landing in the Hudson River) and suffered injuries, I would be happy if they’d pay for my doctor bills and lost luggage (if any).

    If I got away unscathed, they could pay for my lost luggage (if any).

    But in either case, I’d be pretty glad to still be alive.

  61. Mrs. Hill

    maya Says,
    You thought I was humoring the old lady.

    The old lady in question being me, of course — and very much humored I am, too!

    naleta,
    Mr. Hill has savaged his share of cold cut packages. We female members of the household have always chalked it up to his inner Viking — rawr.

  62. mare

    We were strongly encouraged by friends and family to sue after our daughter was bit in the face by a dog.

    Our insurance covered the medical and the family who owned the dog was distraught and sincerely concerned for our daughter’s health. We were very grateful that it was not worse (lose her lip) and that the plastic surgeon was exceptional (just 22 micro stitches). To this day the tiny scars look like laugh lines (if you look very closely).

    We really never wanted to sue. Everything turned out alright. It really helped that they sincerely cared and were shaken up even more than we were.
    (the dog was with the visiting grandmother)

  63. Hollowpoint

    Donna B. Says:

    I’m the sister of a lawyer and the mother of another, who married a lawyer.

    Believe me McDonald’s was wrong. Third degree burns requiring 8 days of hospitalization, skin grafts, and two years of follow-up treatment is NOT frivolous.

    She originally asked McDonald’s to cover her medical expenses without asking for punitive damages, but they offered $800. A hundred dollars a day? That’s ridiculous.

    Imagine how much money McDonald’s would have saved if they’d paid her hospital bill and said “We’re sorry.”

    Or imagine the money that would’ve been saved if the stupid old bat hadn’t removed the cover from the coffee while driving and spilled it all over herself. Or if she accepted personal responsibility for her own reckless actions.

  64. Dave in SD:

    Snark, but could become reality. I wrote about this on my site just the other day…one of St. Hope and Change’s appointees wants to do just that sort of thing. Give animals the right to sue humans.

    (I swear, Rachel, I’m not trying to pimp my site. Just letting him know it may not be far off the mark.)

  65. C. S. P. Schofield

    Y’know, with a little imagination on the part of the Lawyers, this might be fun. Thje reason that geese are such a nuisance these days is that the enviroweenies keep protecting them far past the point where they were still endangered.

    So sue the Sierra Club ….and listen to the squeals of outrage from the Left, which never likes to even DISCUSS the possibility of paying for its little crusades.

    Probably won’t happen, though.

  66. pete in Midland

    Sorry, Donna B. …. but I’ll have to side with Hollowpoint on that one … my recollection of the incident is that no one from McDonalds actually was involved in spilling the coffee in her lap … the dipstick did that by herself. In many states, she would (or could) be ticketed for improper care and attention to friggin’ DRIVING.
    I really should sue the cigarette companies for an incident in my youth, when I tossed a cigarette stub out the window and it flew in the back window and burned a hole in the seat. After all, it would HAVE to be the cigarette companies, or the tobacco farmer’s, fault that I used to be an idiot!

  67. Honeydew — The Leary Rant (link you posted) is SO PERFECT for this situation. I’m a huge fan of his. Thanks for the laugh again.

  68. Ed

    OK, Since it was brought up, the MacDonalds coffee situation. As I recall, at that time, more than one writtten complaint about the temperature of the coffee at that particular restaraunt had been submitted to the management. As it turned out there was an issue with the temperature regulator in the coffee pot. It really was too hot. So they got slapped because they had been made aware of a problem and had not addressed it. As to this current situation with the crass crash victim who is waiting to see how generous the airline will be before he decides to sue. All I can say is what an ASSCLOWN! I agree with those that have said he should just be thankful that the pilot and crew were skilled enough, cared enough, and were lucky enough that all survived.

  69. John

    Just a side note, regarding the McDonalds suit — it’s a usually misrepresented urban legend / media canard that she got some insane amount of money for being stupid. , consider reading through it — she’d offered to settle for $20k, which would have covered $11k in medical costs — McD refused this and subsequent settlement offers.

    Always take sensationalist news articles with a grain of salt (although lawyerbashing is fun, and as for Joe Hart, meh. Rot, you ingrateful moron.

  70. Steve

    Brooke Campbell Says:

    Wow. I work for lawyers and even I think this is a bit much.

    Brooke, I work for lawyers, too, and yes, this IS a bit much. I wonder if the airline can sue him for being an ungrateful bastard?

  71. atwood

    concerning the McDonalds coffee case (from wikipedia)

    “She placed the coffee cup between her knees and pulled the far side of the lid toward her to remove it. In the process, she spilled the entire cup of coffee on her lap”

    She places the cup between her knees ??? Why on earth would she do that ? Why not use the cupholder or at the very least put it on the floor or the car.

    That was foolish and entirely preventable

  72. You know, there may be grounds for legal action against the eco-fiends who insisted on “saving the sacred wetland” in the way of the airplane flight paths. If that “sacred wetland” had been drained and filled for some nearby airport-related industry, there wouldn’t be geese there.

  73. Kim in AK

    Rachel – you don’t know that this isn’t the fault of the airline. There is an investigation into the story that that very airplane had an engine stall while in flight just 2 days before the Hudson incident.

    Don’t get me wrong, I can’t stand it when people sue for absolutely ridiculous things. But I don’t think you know the whole story here.

  74. Tully

    I’m going out this weekend to do my part to reduce the Evil Goose menace. It’s WAY too much trouble to pluck them, so I’ll just filet off the best bits and make the coyotes happy.

  75. Mrs. Hill

    Tully,
    When Mr. Hill was growing up, he and his Dad used to go duck hunting. Dad always said, “Pluck a duck; skin a Coot.”

    Why not forget the plucking, and just skin all fowl??? Is tasty, crispy brown skin a sufficient incentive?

  76. CyndiF

    “OK, Since it was brought up, the MacDonalds coffee situation. As I recall, at that time, more than one writtten complaint about the temperature of the coffee at that particular restaraunt had been submitted to the management.”

    That’s because people who like that McDonalds kept their coffee hot don’t tend to write letters expressing their thanks that the brew won’t go cold before they have a chance to drink it.

  77. mj

    A lot of people have been talking about how amazing the situation was that it came off with no substantial injuries or death (except the geese, I suppose PETA would note).

    If I were to take the five grand in such a situation (not likely), it’d be for the richly deserved party for the crew.

  78. The lady in the McDonald’s case was the passenger and the car was not moving when she took the lid off.

    I worked in restaurants for years, even owned one once — and spilled huge amounts of fresh-brewed coffee on myself over the years. I never got more than a first degree burn, yet McDonald’s coffee caused 3rd degree burns. That is too hot. And they knew it, and then they were arrogant and refused to settle for a reasonable amount.

    There’s no hate here for McDonald’s. I still have a burger there as often as any other fast food burger chain.

    One of my relative lawyers works a firm that handles some WalMart cases. Believe me, there are plenty of people out there trying to turn a little bruise they got kicking the shelf into a lottery ticket. They are scum.

    It’s just that the McDonald’s lady is not one of them.

  79. A Recovering Liberal

    Curmudgeon, those eco-fiends might include a few folks in Wachel’s fanbase, which includes a fair number of shooters and hunters IIRC. Waterfowl hunters are supposed to purchase a Duck Stamp, and 98 cents of each dollar goes toward habitat preservation — such as wetlands.

    A map of LaGuardia, however, doesn’t show much in the way of surrounding wetlands. Perhaps you could point out the sacred wetlands?

  80. Tapestry Cat

    Today, Glenn Beck revealed a “scientific” solution to the over population of Canadian geese:

  81. Honeydew

    Regarding the McDonald’s case: I indeed do not know all of the details. Here is what I do know:

    1. Water has a boiling point of 100 degrees Celsius.
    2. Brewing coffee involves usage of boiling water.

    Thus,

    3. When I receive a cup of coffee, I expect it to be at a near 100 degrees Celsius temperature.

    Unless that woman had the coffee thrown at her, I fail to see how she could have any case.

    (Fine, I suppose that if the lids used were known to be difficult to remove without causing splashing, that would also be case-worthy.)

  82. Mrs. Hill

    Tapestry Cat,

    Figures — liberals don’t want to execute the criminals shoot the adult geese if they can abort their babies instead! But why stop there? Boiling would be a surer method than suffocation —

  83. Tapestry Cat

    Mrs. Hill,

    Blehhhck! That registered a healthy 9.0 on my va-mit-o-meter! You may be on to something, but I don’t think it will fly. Heh

    However… I suspect the lovely, and talented, killing machine known as Miss Margaret would eagerly choose her own “Hillbilly Bravado” costumes, and accessories, for those tasty (gag me) morsels! :-)

  84. Tapestry Cat

    Apparently, US Air is extending their Chairman’s Preferred status to the passengers of the downed flight until March 2010. Get a load of the reactions of some of the passengers!

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