Hot for teachers with guns.
Some of us have always thought teachers in public schools should be allowed to be armed. A school district in north Texas has :
HARROLD, Texas — A tiny Texas school district may be the first in the nation to allow teachers and staff to pack guns for protection when classes begin later this month, a newspaper reported.
Trustees at the Harrold Independent School District approved a district policy change last October so employees can carry concealed firearms to deter and protect against school shootings, provided the gun-toting teachers follow certain requirements.
In order for teachers and staff to carry a pistol, they must have a Texas license to carry a concealed handgun; must be authorized to carry by the district; must receive training in crisis management and hostile situations and have to use ammunition that is designed to minimize the risk of ricochet in school halls.
Superintendent David Thweatt said the small community is a 30-minute drive from the sheriff’s office, leaving students and teachers without protection. He said the district’s lone campus sits 500 feet from heavily trafficked U.S. 287, which could make it a target.
“When the federal government started making schools gun-free zones, that’s when all of these shootings started. Why would you put it out there that a group of people can’t defend themselves? That’s like saying ’sic ‘em’ to a dog,” Thweatt said…
I skimmed the comments to that article and a lot of readers said this is crazy because OMG what if the kids take the guns and start shooting?!?! I’d say that if a kid is prone to do that, he’s prone to bring one from home for the same purpose. Plus did everyone miss the part about all the training?
On the other hand, I’m neither a teacher nor a student nor a parent so what do I know? Maybe it is nuts, but that’s what I like about Texas.
Sounds pretty sensible to me, except this part:
I could see some future superintendent or school board simply refusing authorization…
August 15th, 2008 at 12:01 pmteachers carying guns in schools: I’m fer it.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:02 pmAnd now I state the obvious: As you said, if a kid is prone to bring a gun from home and start shooting, at least the teachers and other chirren will have half a friggin’ CHANCE this way.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:08 pmFrom the comments:
“Seriously, what’s to stop an enterprising young thug from stealing a teacher’s weapon and using it against him?”
Seriously? Maybe other armed faculty? Or, worse, maybe there’s no deterrent at all, and only an armed response is left. Or maybe it’s not the students they are really worried about, etc. etc.
Not so seriously… Concealed? Oh, no no no… Who needs to drop a heavy book, or slap some knuckles with a ruler, when cycling the action of a Mossy gets everyone’s attention?
August 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pmIt is not nuts.
The only thing that is nuts is that the only districts smart enough to do this are the country districts where the kids are probably taught to be safe around guns at home and not in urban districts where for some of the kids, illegal guns are already a way of life. I.E. districts more prone to shootings.
Although, I’ll shoot my own argument in the foot to say that in a country district where I once worked, I was told a story about a kid who had threatened to bring a gun to class. His grandmother’s remark on being told of the kid’s threat: “Guess I’d better lock that gun up, then.”
So no, nothing nuts at all about any district, even one that seems on the face of it to have less likelihood of school shootings, to have teachers trained and prepared to defend their students and themselves.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI love Texas.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:22 pmIt’s worked for Israel for quite some time now. About time they figured out that murderers are not going to comply with a “no guns” law.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:33 pmthink of the additional benefits… when the teacher tell the class to be quiet, I bet you could hear a pin drop 1 second later.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:46 pmAugust 15th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Finally someone with some sense in a school district. I am a parent and pro-gun. I would SO let my kid go to a school where teachers were allowed to carry guns to protect them. My husband and I have been saying for a while now that this is what should happen. Maybe Tennessee will wise up. Or maybe we should just move to Texas.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pmI’m a parent and I endorse this message.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:12 pmHonestly, I wish my son’s school did this. I just enrolled him this morning. Since I carry, I have to park off campus since I cannot legally have a firearm locked in MY car on school property and of course can’t carry it inside. So I parked on the street, unloaded my gun, and locked it in the car. You know, where it is so much safer than strapped to my waist.
I bet if Virginia Tech had passed this law instead of the gun-free zone, I would have more friends alive/not maimed today.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:16 pmI used to live almost directly across the street from a school, and thus lived as a criminal for more than 14 years, because hubby and I had enough firearms for the entire extended family.
Some of the personnel at the school knew that.
Then again, the school I attended the longest as a child had shooting clases as an extracurricular activity and gun racks in pick-ups were mandatory accessories or the locals thought you were one of them “funny” types.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:17 pmI used to teach high school in Laredo, TX, and I carried a Beretta 3032 Tomcat in a wallet holster. Call me crazy, but we had kids wielding bats in the parking lots, sexual assaults in the dugout, and kids who had their jaw broken going to the bathroom, etc…. What was I supposed to do? Wait for some chick asst. principal with a TAMIU ed. degree or a minimum-wage security guard defend my person? I think not.
Sure, had I had reason to use it, I might’ve be charged, but at least I’d be alive.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:38 pmPersonally I would not be comfortable bringing a gun into my classroom. But that’s just me.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:43 pmBack when I was in high school in the 80’s one of the extracaricular activities was a Sportsman’s Club. It was by far the most popular activity, with well over a hundred members -that’s about half the students. Yeah, it was a small school. Once a year the club went to the local range and held a skeet shoot. It took all week to get everyone in, so for a full week out of every year students were bringing their shotguns and shells to school on the bus, and leaning them against the wall in the principal’s office until the time came to hop on the bus to the range. This went on for decades with no incidents or complaints, or even any indication that anyone was at all uncomfortable about it. I never understood why so many people think the presence of firearms is an invitation to violence. Common sense would seem to indicate the opposite.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:44 pmI got a invitation last week to join a parent and two of my students at the local shooting range. I took the opportunity to introduce the two boys, aged 15 and 17, to the joys of a model 1911 chambered for .45 ACP. Sorry, dad, I guess it’s going to be an expensive Christmas. On the other hand, maybe it’s time to start pushing for a school rifle, pistol, and shotgun team? Hmmmmmmm . . .
August 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pmI was in the Army and had taken the concealed carry class. I was perfectly comfortable with a pistol in my pocket (and a Kel-Tec Sub 40 in my truck)
August 15th, 2008 at 1:51 pmI’m a teacher in an “Adult Ed” setting in a suburb just outside Detroit. A lot of the kids I get (most students are 16-19) live in rough circumstances and violence is pretty much accepted as a part of their lives. I’m a bit amazed, really, that in 15 years there, not a single “disgruntled” student has come in to the building, looking to cause trouble. *knock on wood*
Once or twice a year we have a “lockdown” exercise where I’m to turn off my lights, lock my door and have the student “hide” out of sight of the door’s small window which I keep covered. Typically, I use this time to explain how this would have little to no effect against a determined person, seeing as they can easily get keys from one of a dozen people with a master key (none of whom are teachers). I also explain that the only true deterrent to something like this is the mere possibility that some or all of teachers may be armed. Since it’s currently illegal to be, they all are, in effect, sitting ducks.
It takes all my willpower not to laugh in the face of the man (I think a police detective) that comes around after this exercise in futility to tell us how well we hid.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:55 pmThe high school where I teach is about twenty-five feet from I-35 in rural north Texas. I have long thought it would be prudent to allow us teachers to pack heat, and at this school I think it should be mandatory that SOMEONE in each building be carrying a concealed handgun.
Although I have no doubt that every farm boy in the school is a fair aim with his pocketknife that he keeps concealed in his front pocket along with the key to the tractor. I love my school.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pmThe concept is that the guns are concealed,so nobody knows who’s packing and who isn’t. It makes everyone less likey to get froggy when they have no idea who is packing. If there was a mousy waify little art teacher who felt like she may be overpowered and her gun taken away, then she has the option to not carry one. The stupid little studnets will assume she’s carrying one woudl be less likey to go all Dylan Klebold on them.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pmI live in the fine state of Colorado, where the Columbine massacre was so famously held. Then there’s the Bailey horror, where a man took a classroom hostage and made the teacher and the boys leave. He then sexually assaulted several of the girls and killed one before shooting himself.
I don’t know how the Bailey teacher lives with herself. What kind of craven, cowardly, disgusting filth walks out of a room leaving sixteen year old girls behind in the hands of a gunman? What excuse do you give yourself for abandoning kids to death?
Here’s my position. Teachers do not leave classrooms without their students. If a rapist wants their students, the teacher has to take a bullet first. That’s what we parents do, that’s what “in loco parentis” means. If you have my kids in your class you better be ready to defend them to the death. If you don’t have a gun, then you throw your stupid, gunless carcass in front of the shooter so your students can escape.
Good for Texas. Bravo for Texas. God help our helpless schoolchildren and the cowardly school administrations who refuse to defend them.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:59 pmPara hit the nail on the head, and I think that’s the point of this district’s policy. There were a couple of other teachers who had a good idea I was carrying once they learned I had the permit. I never let on, but I always smiled when they said they were coming to my room or running to my truck if anyone ever started shooting.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:01 pmI can just imagine the hyperventilating in certain quarters about the backwardness of Texans…
I so love my state.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:07 pmI’ve posted before that when I was a teacher for a year (also in rural north Texas, hmmmm, I’m sensing a trend), I packed a Beretta 9mm every day. Not without much consideration and a determination that I would do exactly as Bonnie-Says said…these kids are in my care, under my protection, and I refuse to be a helpless victim or allow them to be hurt without doing all I can. This policy has the added deterrent benefit that my individual act of responsibility didn’t, though.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:18 pmMy only worry is the teachers. I’d like to screen them myself, please.
Frankly, some of the teachers my children have shouldn’t be allowed to cross the street by themselves, much less touch a gun.
Hopefully these would be the ones who would choose not to carry.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:44 pmWhen I was in grad school one of the students in the English Comp class I was teaching had a Browning .380 at all times.
Was the safest I ever felt in my life (till I got my own carry permit).
August 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pmIn UK schools, the teachers are the only ones who aren’t armed is some way.
You can always tell when someone’s a teacher - the nervous tics tend to give them away. A school friend became one and I met him recently for the first time in around 10 years. I didn’t recognise him at first when he was waving to me - he’s only the same age as me (37), but his hair had gone prematurely grey.
Getting to the story (finally!), I totally agree, too. There’s a reason why nutjobs have traditionally chosen gun-free zones for their killing sprees.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pmDig it. I know a teacher here in Indiana who was threatened with rape and murder by one of her junior high school
thugsstudents about 15 years ago. There were no witnesses. The school and the school district (an inner city district) would do nothing about it, so she quit.As it turns out, she likes to shoot. Too bad she wasn’t allowed to have a gun on her belt that day. My guess is that the
thugstudent would have kept his lip buttoned.(Also, sort of contra Para above, she was [and is] a mousy, waify little special ed teacher…and at least in my experience, they’re the ones most likely to have pepper spray and/or a little .22 or .38 packed away in their purse.)
August 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pmdoes this mean the school has to post a sign saying “no longer a gun free victim hunting preserve”?
August 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pmIn good old New York you can carry your guns to the shooting range and… that’s it. In some cases you can’t even do THAT.
Love this town.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:50 pmI’m getting my concealed carry permit next week. Yeah, I know, its off topic, but I’m really happy about it and felt like sharing.
August 15th, 2008 at 4:40 pmunless the law has recently change, in Texas it is legal to have a firearm in you vehicle in a public school parking lot, or to carry concealed (if licensed) in the lot or on publicly accessible sidewalks. It is not legal to carry inside the buildings.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:10 pmBully to that school district. It almost - almost - makes me want to move to Texas. Almost. I’m still not going to live in a state where “chiggers” are “native life forms”, though. Sorry, no can do. Not going to do it. Not prudent. Not going to do it. Read my lips.
I would personally recommend including some basic hand-to-hand self-defense courses in the regimen, though. Chances are, the students are going to get awfully close to the teachers, and if the teacher is holding a gun and the student is about two feet away, and only one of them knows how to handle themselves in a fight, the teacher is not going to fare that well. Just a thought.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:13 pmHeh. They’d have to get rid of a few more liability laws first.
Teachers are remarkably vulnerable to lawsuits, much more than most people realize. I can be fired, sued, or both, just for jumping in the middle of a fight between two students and pulling them apart, even if neither one of them gets hurt.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:30 pmIt seems like a good idea, even if it turns out that it isn’t, at least they are trying something rather than just repeating failed policy.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:35 pmThat’s an excellent point, mightysamurai. All those individual teachers thinking about bringing a gun on campus better think long and hard about the liability issues before doing so.
I can think of several scenarios for liability right off the top of my head. Teacher has gun in purse, goes to separate two or three fighting students… leaving her purse at her desk in the front of the room. The girlfriend of one of the fighting parties grabs the unsecured gun out of the purse, shoots at the guy attacking her boyfriend. Teacher liable for leaving the gun unprotected during a highly emotional, violent situation?
Or try same situation, male teacher carrying gun concealed under jacket. Goes to separate the fight, one of the students knows teacher is packing, grabs gun, kills somebody. Teacher liable?
Or teacher counsels student known to be depressed and potentially suicidal. Teacher has to leave the room for a moment, leaves purse (with gun) behind. Student kills self. Teacher liable?
In each of those situations, the teacher knew of a particular dangerous situation, in which it was easily foreseeable that access to a gun by the hot-tempered, poor-judgment teenagers could lead to somebody being shot. Plaintiff’s counsel could easily make the argument that it was negligent, even grossly negligent, to not take better care to safeguard the gun.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pmWhile Homofornia has decided to be “progressive” by allowing same-sex couples to marry (hell, why not go ALL the way and allow groups of same sex people to marry other groups of same sex people?), a small school district in TexGun has figured out just how to keep its students safe from the perps who would gun down students and teachers. Which is more “progressive” . . . Homofornia or TexGun?
August 15th, 2008 at 6:03 pmLet him carry a blackjack too?
Personally I don’t think a purse is a very good place for a gun. It’s too easy to get flustered in the heat of the moment and fumble around. On the hip is much better. Galco also sells thigh band holsters.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:14 pmPatHMV,
Given the prodigious testicles of most trial lawyers and some prosecuting attorneys, I would say yes, yes, and yes.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:28 pmJust a guess, but I’d say that there will NEVER be a school shooting in this district.
August 15th, 2008 at 6:48 pmUtah authorized CHP holders including teachers to carry in schools in 2003. No reports as of yet of kids taking a teacher’s gun, or of a kid getting shot for not doing his homework.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:43 pmMy boss, who’s a little older than me, says that when he was in high school in the late 50’s & early 60’s, the school had competitive shooting teams. Students regularly brought their rifles and pistols to school, and kept them in their lockers during class. Often they’d go hunting in the nearby woods after school.
Funnily enough, there were no shootings at all at that school. Not one, ever.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:48 pmA little krav maga would go along way in a gun situation, but only if one was close.
Mighty would be uncomfortable, and I have figured out why. He’d pull out that Dirty Harry .40 and all the girlies would make offers he’d be unable to resist and there would go his career!
August 15th, 2008 at 7:53 pm“Concealed” means “concealed” - out of sight, so nobody knows who’s carrying and who isn’t until you draw on a bad guy. “Carry” means “carry” - on your person, not in your coat pocket in the closet, or in your purse on the desk, or anyplace else you don’t have full control over the weapon.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:55 pmmightysam.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pmI can’t resist. I just can’t. I am going to hell for sure.
RW Donn:
It’s Friday evening, and I’ve put down my fair share of delicious booze… But, what does gay marriage (or civil unions, or social contract, or condoning an abomination before God) have to do with 2nd Amendment rights, exactly?
No, really. What? If I’m up to the sinker, here, please let me know. I’m new and I need the help.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:27 pm“I’m still not going to live in a state where “chiggers” are “native life forms”, though. Sorry, no can do. Not going to do it. Not prudent. Not going to do it. Read my lips.”
Hey, I live in Texas and I never worry about chiggers. Its the water moccasins that infest my lake property that piss me off. They don’t run away like rattlesnakes will.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:28 pmTake a look. I’ve never seen a in the strictest sense of the word.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pmScrew liability. That’s a topic for school ‘administrators’, and trial lawyers. Hell, they’d sue the school district instead of me since they have the dough.So they sue me.One can always make more money.
I’m 6 ft, 225lbs, a bit of a gym rat, and a hell of a lot larger than my former students. However, if one of my little vatos pulled a gun on another teacher or student, I was going to be ready.
Now, I teach college in the Northeast, and I frequently keep a little ’surprise’ in my briefcase.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:31 pmThe Dallas Morning News version of the story is as well.
I’ve done my level headed best to try to convince these idiots that it’s not the law abiding gun owners in these situations that they need to be worried about.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:01 pmOne of my favorite scenes in George R.R. Martin’s fantasy series A Song of Ice and Fire is when a fencing teacher throws himself, with nothing but a wooden sword, up against several fully-armed and armored men so that his nine-year-old girl pupil can escape. That’s the sort of teacher I’d want for my kids, if I had them…and since we’ve got better weapons than swords, hell YES I want them to be packing, if they’re able to handle guns!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pm…college in the Northwest. Short, chunky and smiley. And a chick. And packing all the time. Usually nonlethal, but what can I say? I like life.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:03 pmRe: Pocket Gun
I’ve seen one in person and held it in my hand at a “Man Land” in Spokavegas. I haven’t fired one or seen it fired, though. I don’t think it would do much damage.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:05 pmBut the district would still “ask” for your “voluntary” resignation. In the end you’re still out of a job and your reputation is in the gutter.
Allowing teachers to carry in the classroom will probably make schools safer, but, IMO, it will have a detrimental effect on the classroom environment.
I would never prevent any other teacher from carrying a gun if they so choose, but I won’t do it.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:05 pmNO SHIT MAYA SPOKEVEGAS!!! I say that ALLTHETIME!!!! I am lol!!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:07 pmScrew my job. Teaching in the barrio sucked. I’m interested in living.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:21 pmAnd yes, a .32 hollow point will keep you alive.I’d rather have something larger, but I’d also rather have a firetruck if the smoker catches fire. The .32 is like a fire extinguisher: it does the job until the big guns arrive.
Maya: re pocket gun: it’s strictly an up-close and personal gun. (a belly-gun, if you will); and they also come in 22Magnum. Take my word for it - they’ll do a hell of a lot of damage when used in their proper role.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:40 pmIn fact, during VietNam, one of my best weapons was a High Standard HD-Military, which was a (silenced) 22Long Rifle auto. We used STANDARD velocity ammo because of the way it acted inside a skull.
Never, ever, underestimate a gun because of its size; or because it’s “only a 22″.
14K:
Was a tossup between Spokevegas and Spokompton. Those are the only two I know.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:01 pmTee hee maya! I has a new descriptor for the PacNorWes Sodom and Gomorrah. Thanks!
BTW — are you following the Duncan trial?
August 15th, 2008 at 10:19 pmPatHMV-
Each scenario you describe would require prior knowledge of the handgun on the particular student’s part. The purpose of carrying concealed is to be able to protect yourself and others using the element of surprise. Broadcasting the fact to each of your students would defeat the purpose, wouldn’t it? The permit holders I know take them seriously. Even leaving a weaponless purse in a classroom today would be really careless on the teacher’s part!
August 15th, 2008 at 10:20 pmI’d like to suggest that as many people as possible e-mail the superintendent and show your support, perhaps congratulate him on his courage and dedication to the student’s welfare.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:37 pmCol. Cooper’s 4 Rules of Gun Safety, as given by Barack Obama:
1. All guns are always loaded. Especially if they are carried by xenophobic retards who molest their guns while shooting the sky in a drunken orgy of cordite and lead.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not prepared to destroy. Because let’s be honest, why point a gun at Mahmoud, when you can soothe his anger by ensuring you have a good grip on the reach around?
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target. This rule is critical, as “early discharges” are the #1 reason why Michelle Obama developed a hatred of Whitey at those drunken frat parties years ago at Princeton.
4. Be sure of your target. Remember, guns and bombs are evil, except when used against Capitalist Pigs, Rethuglicans, small children, unicorns, the American flag, apple pie, baseball, Firefly, Imaginationland, kittens, Ridgebacks, homo-humping heffalump dogs and the Pentagon.
I swear, Obama said that entire list under #4. He sounds like a real dick, but given the company he’s kept over the years, I’m not surprised.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:53 pmOne of my favorite talk show hosts, Mark Davis on the great WBAP, says this all the time: “gun free zones kill people”. I’ve adopted it myself, and I believe its correct.
Arming teachers is good. Requiring training and special ammunition is even better. If the teachers handle themselves like I’ve seen most CHL holders handle themselves, we shouldn’t see any problems out of that school district.
I just sent Mr. Thweatt an email in support of this program.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:54 pm14K: yep, checking in on KOMO (sorry I’m down with the Seattle reporters) every cuppla days, although gotta say I followed the Russell case a lot closer. d’ya know he lived in the condo complex I lived in (we did not overlap) before he got in trouble?
August 16th, 2008 at 12:03 amAwesome !!
I hope more schools here in Texas do this !
August 16th, 2008 at 12:52 amLooking back to my Texas high school days, about half the pickup trucks in the school parking lot probably had shotguns. Lots of boys had fistfights in that same parking lot, as high
August 16th, 2008 at 5:20 amschool boys do. Never one time did one of them go for his gun. It never would have crossed their minds. But in those days, lots of misbehavior never happened because “My Mama(Daddy) would kill me (beat my ass)”
Assuming: carrying concealed lawfully; with training; plus maybe a dash of common sense . . . you’re no more “liable” to be sued in one setting over another, all things considered.
I think TX is totally right on track with this.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:38 amDoesn’t go far enough, actually. ANY citizen who can legally carry a gun should be able to carry on school property. Or the damn post office. Or wherever.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:57 amYou know it just occurred to me that unconcealed carry could potentially solve most of the problems associated with concealed carry.
After all, police officers carry unconcealed weapons in hip holsters on school grounds all the time.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:34 amForget the guns. How about each school district in the country fits out every classroom desk with chains and manacles, plus a warden — instead of a TA — for each classroom? That should ensure that the little bastards settle down and learn something academic for a change. Just a thought.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:36 amOff topic for a second.
maya,
The Duncan case is some really sad shit right there. I considered asking Rachel to blog about it, but what would be the point? The notes, the videotaping, the rapes and murder — that poor little girl! It’s so outrageous that it almost seems like an urban legend you would tell your children to scare the living shit out of them.
Oh, and the Russell case — what a travesty of justice. I’m pretty ticked about that one. Small world, isn’t it?
On topic:
I sent an email of support, as well. Public opinion on these types of issues really does make a difference.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:54 amI imagine that, given the remoteness of the school, Thweatt’s decision was prompted more by incidents like the — i.e. an intruder/invasion — than a fear of the students themselves. Either way, he has my support — he should be cloned!
As someone else pointed out, PatHMV’s legal nightmare scenarios all require that the students know which teachers are carrying and how. Were that the case, wouldn’t they have failed to conceal? In some states (though not Texas?), that would qualify as “brandishing”!
Here’s a snippet of Texas code:
Mighty,
On campus open carry? Love it! But I’d still want the CCW option — keep ‘em guessing!
Bonnie_Says,
Yes! Like , eh? Don’t we all wish he could have been armed!
August 16th, 2008 at 11:38 amHissyfit,
I would totally be up for that. Anything to get the little Godless Heathens to sit down and work.
August 16th, 2008 at 11:44 amRick, it’s funny that you should bring this up because I was just talking to my son about this two days ago (remember you gave me all that info on krav maga almost two years ago when I was hunting for a program in Houston?). As you know, I’m a big personal security advocate. I have my own CCP and carry a Glock 19. My kids are trained on what to do in an Active Shooter scenario at school - and even the worst-case terrorist attack scenario. I don’t want my kids to be paralyzed by what I call “panic-in-place”. If they can think through a crisis then they have a better chance of surviving. Some plan is better than no plan at all.
OK, so active shooters and terrorists aside - trouble in high school can get a lot more up-close-and-personal. Gangs. Hence, my fixation with krav maga.
It has ALWAYS been one of my goals to equip my kids with krav maga. Both my son and daughter can shoot, but that does them no good at school, especially if gang thugs try to take on my son for street cred because of his size (he’s 13 years old and 6′2″ - and he’s white).
It’s my son’s first year of high school and he was up at the orientation camp on Thursday to get his schedule and books. He watched a fight break out between two Mexicans because one kept hocking up loogies and it was pissing people off. My son said he watched several guys line up behind their “homies” ready to go to war. It all looked extremely stupid to him, but it was instructive to me: what if some gang thugs decide to take on a clean-cut baseball star and ROTC cadet? Just because they can.
So I was googling yet again for local krav maga sources…and now your post reminded me to make a few calls.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:29 pmThis Texas school is NOT the first in the nation. Utah State legislature back in 2006 passed a law allowing Teachers and other school employees allowing concealed carry.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:58 pmI’m for it and it’s about time!
August 17th, 2008 at 7:45 pmThe wife’s a teacher and she’s originally from Texas. Perhaps it’s time to move back.
August 18th, 2008 at 9:55 amThen she ought to take lessons from :
Q: Dear Gunhilda,
If an attacker tries to take my gun away and use it against me, what should I do?
Worried in Willows
Dear Worried,
Pull the felon repulsion lever. You should find it just underneath your trigger finger.
Gunhilda
August 18th, 2008 at 2:52 pmFurther proof of Britian’s surrender, and why guns in school is an effective deterrant.
August 18th, 2008 at 3:37 pm