Fell deeds awake.
So in our LOTR analogy, who IS Sauron? The left-wing media, that’s who. Obama is just their tool. He has no power in and of himself - yet. But he will if they have their way. And they’re trying to get their way by of a dude named Joe.
Because Joe the plumber - that evil bastard - happened to be outside playing with his kid one day when Obama decided to go door-to-door in Joe’s neighborhood, meetin’ the folks. And Joe the plumber - that fool - asked a simple question fraught with danger for Obama: “Are you gonna raise my taxes?”
He ought not to have done that. Because when he did that, Obama actually told the truth, which was that Obama wants to “spread the wealth.” Which made everyone with a sane mind able to legitimately say that he’s a socialist. Bad Joe. Shame on you for giving The Annointed One’s opponents some ammunition. Now you must be .
So now Joe’s home address is posted all over the internet. His divorce records, his , his voting history, you name it. The leftists are drawing conclusions , but damn what’s true. What really matters is raking some random guy who asked a serious question all over .
Nice work, lefty “journalists.” You can’t be bothered to write two-dozen-paragraph articles discussing the presidential candidate’s connections and history but you sure can do it about some dude in Toledo’s plumbing license. You are such a bunch of pissant little assholes.
Even if Joe the plumber turned out to be a raging loser with a criminal history and a penchant for setting kittens on fire, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND OBAMA’S ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION??? Nothing! and everyone attacking him goddamn knows it.
The only reason anyone is even aware of Joe’s existence is because of what Obama said to him. Joe himself is completely irrelevant. He doesn’t matter. He is unimportant. He has nothing to do with anything. He asked a fuckin’ question. The answer to that question should be getting all the press and all the scrutiny, and everyone who’s attacking this Joe guy KNOWS THAT.
The bias is so transparent, it takes your breath away. It truly is a thing of magnificent wrongness.
Well. I’m going to stick with my new own personal meme. Thanks to all the commenters in the last thread, putting up all those fantastic quotes. I’ll be using them from now until election day. By popular demand, I give you Theoden:
“So in our LOTR analogy, who IS Sauron? The left-wing media, that’s who. Obama is just their tool.”
He does sort of remind me of Gollum…
October 17th, 2008 at 11:52 amNew helmet for Wachel! …Wooo!
(Couldn’t resist!)
October 17th, 2008 at 12:05 pmSNORT!! I just pushed hot coffee thru my nose. Thanks allot!!
(”It burns ussss…!”)
October 17th, 2008 at 12:05 pmObama is Saruman, the White.
The MSM is obvious as Sauron and his “all-seeing eye”, with all the attendant pundits and “reporters” as orcs, goblins, and nefarious others.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:11 pmSo if Bush is the fascist nazi dictator… what exactly does that make the socialist friend of domestic terrorists whose faithful media terrorizes anyone who disagrees with him?
October 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pmIn reading the comments on the previous thread I see that Mark was ahead of me.
Great minds think alike…
October 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pmI’m enjoying the whole LOTR thing. Now I’ve got to come to terms with the fact that I’ve been lying to myself all these years about not being a geek.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pmThe reason it’s not is because when voters start paying attention to his answer, the election is over.
We can say that America has slipped in a lot of ways but I’m still proud of the fact that this country would elect a Satan-worshipping, polyamorous, necrophiliac cannibal before a garden-variety socialist.
Not that John McCain’s any of those things. It’s just…well…never mind. You know what I mean.
(And thank you for the link!)
October 17th, 2008 at 12:25 pmWho is Joe the plumber?
MOST OF US HERE ARE.
I put a sign on my lawn that says “I am Joe the Plumber too!!!”
Cuz anyone who works and knows what’s gonna happen to the money they earn should the one take the throne is Joe the Plumber too.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:26 pmStupid. Obama plans 1 trillion in new spending and a bunch of tax cuts/credits and is somehow gonna pay for it all by raising taxes on only 5% of the earners? I don’t have to be president of the math club to know that it isn’t even possible. He’ll promise ANYTHING to the people who are so obcessed with believing it…
Then last night I realized that in many ways our choice this November is between a John McCain America or a Jane Fonda America. I wish Mc Cain realized and acted appropriately as a result.
I always thought Theoden’s speech was better than Aragorn’s. Way better. In fact, my opinion is that Bernard Hill steals the show from Viggo Mortensen in the third movie with that performance.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:29 pmI’m not well-versed in the LOTR universe, so I can’t speak to the analogy. But, being the bitter, clinging, hillbilly flyover country racist that I’ve been informed by the media that I am, I can’t help but see the end of this election shaping up to be a cross between the 2000 Bush/Gore debacle and the first OJ verdict.
My personal hope is that Joe the Plumber gets on TV in the next few days and tells the media jackals and the rest of the left wing rabid loons out there to kiss his big, hairy plumber’s crack!
October 17th, 2008 at 12:30 pmYou go, girl! I SO AGREE with you!
October 17th, 2008 at 12:30 pmLOL
When I was in 4th grade my classmates made it abundantly clear to me that I was a geek and a nerd. I realized they were right. More importantly, I realized I didn’t care, and I have embraced such labels ever since. (It’s amazing how agreeing with an insult robs the insulter of his fun.)
To not be a geek would mean I’d have to give up far too many interesting things. Life is too short to give up my fun just to maintain some facade of coolness.
Bring on the geekiness! More! More!
October 17th, 2008 at 12:30 pmDAve, you’re absolutely right. The contempt that 0bama showed to Joe the plumber is the same contempt he has for all of us who actually work for a living.
I’m getting tired of the way he starts all of his answers to The Unwashed (i.e. us) with “Look…”. I wish he’d just complete his thought and add “you f*cking morons” after the “Look”, because you KNOW that’s what he’s thinking.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:38 pmDamn media vermin, Rachel has hit this on the nail.
And I’m with DaveW here; I thought Theoden’s speech and his glorious charge were way better than Aragorn’s speech. Though his didn’t suck either. Rachel, I love the Theoden motivator poster!!
October 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pmOk…the Wachel Rohirrim helmet from Zoot is absolutely awesome…
October 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pmGríma Wormtongue. The MSM is Gríma Wormtongue, pouring poison into your ears.
‘”The wise speak only of what they know, Gríma son of Galmod. A witless worm have you become. Therefore be silent, and keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man till the lightning falls.”
October 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pmSauron is Soros
October 17th, 2008 at 12:46 pmJoe = which character in LTR?
Joe The Plumber is the caricature and personification of the problem of OBambi. He makes it real and easy to understand for the average middle of the road voter.
Cann’t a man have a dream? I mean just because you are an apprentice scared of the thought of 36 years of Obama’s socialist presidency, doesn’t mean we can’t be inspired to break the $ 250k Obama-glass/Astroturf ceiling. He seems like a bright fellow, I see a journalist or political job in his near future.
See, only in America can a man with some gumption stand up to a Socialist, “in his face”, and talk America away from such a silly choice. The Apprentice Plumber from Ohio ended the Obama Honeymoon, weeks before the Nuptials. There is so much David and Goliath, and also a poignant reminder of the crucifixion of Sarah by the media.
And now, thanks to that teleprompter (still on strike?) we now know what a smear campaign is. Someone wants to smear all my hard earned money all over the trailer parks, housing projects, and ghettos in order to buy more ACORN tainted votes. I wondered why there isn’t more ACORN brand merchandise. Or at least spoofy merchandise. It just sounds so Nutroots.
What a Campaign, and its about 2 weeks to doomsday for either one candidate and his jester, or for all of America. Isnt it just Awesome?
October 17th, 2008 at 12:52 pmRachel, I just wanted to let you know, that I WILL follow you anywhere if you keep up these inspirational posts. Hell Yeah, indeed.
Plus more Rush* geekery: Subdivisions
*Anything to spread the gospel of Geddy, Alex & Neil.
October 17th, 2008 at 12:54 pmViggo loves hockey! He supported Dennis Kucinich for Pres, and he does make over 250K per year. From the “for what it’s worth” department.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:00 pmJoe the Plumber wasn’t important. He is now. He is because the Obamabots made him so. If they had just ignored the whole thing the MSM would have airbrushed Obama’s gaff away and most people would never have heard of it.
If McCain has the sense that God gave gravel he’ll do a few ads coming to Joe’s defense. Make it plain that what is happening to Joe is what is in everyone’s future under a dem-controlled congress with a dem-president.
But he won’t. That wouldn’t be nice.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 pmFelicity:
I could see that. But for some reason I envision Soros as more of the Witch King - the head of the Nine, who is almost unseen in the shadows.
OH! And Michelle Obama as Shelob? The spider.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pmThe way the media is going after Joe is killin’ me. Killin’ me, people! I wish to G-d there was something I could do to help. I wish I could kick some ass on his behalf. I felt the same way about Palin. I hate what they are doing - they are making a mockery and fraud of our entire electoral process. I fuckin’ hate ‘em all. G-ddamn asshole bastards.
Sorry, I’m just about coming unhinged about this.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:12 pmComing late to the party, but I am loving these posts. I read Tolkien in the 70s as a college student, and usually re-read the LOTR about once a year. Anyway, some other quotes I haven’t seen yet:
Gandalf: Let folly be our cloak, a veil before the eyes of the Enemy! For he is very wise, and weighs all things to a nicety in the scales of his malice. But the only measure that he knows is desire, desire for power; and so he judges all hearts. Into his heart the thought will not enter that any will refuse it, that having the Ring we may seek to destroy it. If we seek this, we shall put him out of reckoning.
Gandalf: It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.
Eowyn (for Sarahcuda, in reply to the MSM): All your words are but to say: you are a woman, and your part is in the house. But when the men have died in battle and honour, you have leave to be burned in the house, for the men will need it no more. But I am of the House of Eorl and not a serving-woman. I can ride and wield a blade, and I do not fear either pain or death.
And while we’re at it, I think we should do a little Firefly/Serenity quotage:
Mal Reynolds (for all 2nd-amendment lovers, to any who don’t): You don’t know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you’ll be awake, you’ll be facing me, and you’ll be armed.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Why? Do you even know why they sent you?
The Operative: It’s not my place to ask. I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: So me and mine gotta lay down and die… so you can live in your better world?
The Operative: I’m not going to live there. There’s no place for me there… any more than there is for you. Malcolm… I’m a monster.What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.
Young River: People don’t like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don’t run, don’t walk. We’re in their homes and in their heads and we haven’t the right. We’re meddlesome.
And last but not least:
Mal Reynolds: Y’all got on this boat for different reasons, but y’all come to the same place. So now I’m asking more of you than I have before. Maybe all. Sure as I know anything, I know this - they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They’ll swing back to the belief that they can make people… better. And I do not hold to that. So no more runnin’. I aim to misbehave.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:12 pmDamn. Moderated - again. And this time I know why - probably too many cuss words. This is what this election has reduced me to.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:13 pmReally? I didn’t like it at all. To me it (the speech, not the actor) was way over the top, hop-on-the-crazy-train-cuz-we’re-about-to-die. Less inspirational than cackling madly in the face of death.
Viggo had better material, but did less with it.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pmThanks a lot, Rachel. I’ve resisted the urge to become a LOTR geek all these years and now — thanks to the inspirational quotes and discussion here — I’m digging the DVDs out and planning a marathon this weekend. :∫
October 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pmAfter a little thought, I could make a great case that SOROS is Sauron. He had great power, and wants more. Thinks nothing of ruining countries and economies in pursuit of ultimate power. And he operates through surrogates like Sauruman and Wormtongue.
The only thing he’s missing is a military. And if he owns a President, he owns that.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pmMaybe Obama is the Mouth of Sauron? The Mouth was an empty suit, also, right?
October 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pmRI, you really shouldn’t read my replies. Apparently my potty keyboard is rubbing off on you.
And BTW, if I may be so bold: fuck Obama; fuck the left; and fuck those jackbooted Stalinist little dickheads.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pmElvenPhoenix beat me to it. I am (gasp!) disagreeing with The Rachl.
ElvenPhoenix: I agree. Soros is Sauron, MSM is Saruman. or Grima. Don’t know. Insofar as Obama being MSM’s tool, then Obama is Saruman, but a silver tongue has he not.
So, that means I don’t know where Obama falls in this analogy.
PS. upon reading (OK, skimming) the comments I see felicity is also thinking along this line.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pmThis was my thought as well. We need to be the Ents and take down Isengard.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pmThe “unseen in the shadows” part rings true, but if you look at who serves whom, who is the puppet-master, who is the source of the money stream, i.e. the power? Who has the history, who has raised the ‘army’ of MoveOn and Acorn?
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October 17th, 2008 at 1:30 pmReally? I didn’t like it at all.
I know, I’m just about the only one that thinks that.
I think part of it is Theoden’s character. You expect Aragorn to be inspiring, he’s the star of the story after all.
Theoden never wants to fight, and he fights against fighting through the whole story. Moreover he starts out under the control of Saruman, a weak-minded and pitiable figure.
Somehow, at the very end, he decides he has to fight. And even when confronted with a huge mismatch in numbers, and knowing he and everyone with him is probably going to die, he sticks with his decision.
Theoden’s transformation is miraculous. Aragorn, meh, we’re waiting for him to win the brass ring throughout the story.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pmF:
about Soros not being Witch King: I agree. I make the connections with “string puller”. And I would argue that Sauron is more “unseen in the shadows” than the Witch King. Who rides around on a farkin’ shrieking big-ass beast: Sauron or the Witch King? Sauron just tucks himself away to think his thoughts, plan his moves. Witch King is actually out doing the work. So ACORN and MoveOn could be the Witch King.
So I guess my players are as follows:
October 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pmSauron = Soros
Mouth of Sauron = Obama ?
Saruman = MSM (silver tongue)
ooh! Grima = lefty blogs (needling their way in and spreading lies)
Witch King = ACORN, MoveOn, etc.
I really need to re-read the books (I could never get past the first two) and possibly watch the movies again. I do admit to only seeing the first two only once. I really love The Hobbit so everything after that bored me as a young kid.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pmTurning the analogy on its head.
Boromir: Let us use the plumber against our enemy.
Aragorn: You cannot wield the plumber. The plumber answers only to himself; he knows no other master.
Elron: You have only one choice. The plumber must be destroyed.
Gimli: Then what are we waiting for?
Elron: The plumber cannot be destroyed by any of us Gimli son of Gloin. Our fingerprints must not be on him. He must be taken deep into the bowels of the media machine and bloodied on front pages and news screens throughout the land. The media must do this.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pmBut don’t you see? It’s McCain’s fault that Joe the unlicensed Plumber is getting eviscerated. After all, McCain’s the one that politicized him by bringing him into the debate. McCain’s the hater.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pmSigh! — carrying on in true geek form, some quotes for Joe:
From Sophocles, Antigone:
From Shakespeare, Henry IV (Pt.2):
and Antony and Cleopatra:
“Killing the messenger” — a longstanding tradition amongst tyrants!
October 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pmmaya,
October 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pmThanks! Okay, so now we know who the enemy is, but how do we destroy him?????
Isn’t it interesting that LIBERALS hate dissent. Free speech, sure, as long as it’s what I want to hear.
Why try to destroy the guy. If you disagree with McCain use your power and vote for Obama.
Something very third world is happening in this country; voter fraud, personal attacks on people who disagree with you, Calling a respectable candidate a “cunt”. Blocking people from going on radio stations. Investigating those that speak out about your candidate. What the hell is happening here.
This is very, very serious. I never respected the media, however, just for circulation purposes I would think they would want to seriously investigate and vet some of this stuff. Can you believe not one cub reporter is willing to shoot for the Pulitzer and really investigate Obama.
We know more about Joe the plumber than we really do about Obama.
October 17th, 2008 at 1:56 pm“I do not believe it. I will not believe it.” -Aragorn, upon hearing that Obama was way ahead in the polls.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pmAnd here is the added bonus of Rush Geekdom - does this remind you of anyone or thing?
We’ve taken care of everything
The words you read
The songs you sing
The pictures that give pleasure
To your eye
One for all and all for one
Work together
Common sons
Never need to wonder
How or why
We are the Priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
Our great computers
Fill the hallowed halls
We are the Priests
Of the Temples of Syrinx
All the gifts of life
Are held within our walls
Look around this world we made
October 17th, 2008 at 2:12 pmEquality
Our stock in trade
Come and join the Brotherhood
Of Man
What a nice contented world
Let the banners
Be unfurled
Hold the Red Star proudly
High in hand
Thanks very much for the Theoden inspirational poster! Just what was needed.
This line below just undescores Theoden’s pain and confusion. To be honest with you all, I have the same feeling… “HOW DID IT COME TO THIS?”
Theoden: Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?
October 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pmRight before Palin’s convention speech after that horrid weekend I made some blog comment about it feeling like the last moments at Helm’s Deep before the charge. And then Palin gave that glorious speech.
So the LOTR stuff works for me.
Over at Ace’s I see that Slublog has gone with the ‘Spartacus’ theme and ‘I am Joe the Plumber” photoshop.
That would make a great bumpersticker or even soaped in on the back windshield.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pmFelicity,
How do we defeat him? The answer is above in the comments.
In general, Arise, become active. Put a sign in your yard. Hold the line. Prepare yourself by learning the facts and stab your opponents arguments in the heart. When the hour seems darkest, Attack! Any liberals beliefs cannot last past two or three questions before they become indefensible, or the liberals argument is exposed as false.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pmUse the inspiration, wherever it comes from, Rachel, Joe the Plumber, Aragorn? Doesn’t really matter the answer is the same. Stand! Fight!
F:
We can destroy Soros by gathering up all his jewelry, with rings in mind especially, and chucking them all in a volcano.
Oh poop. That guy has so much money he can just buy more rings.
DaveW: You cannot wield the plumber. Ha! That was funny!
October 17th, 2008 at 2:22 pmbaxtrice, I’m giving birth now! (Subdivision is my all time favorite Rush song!)
October 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pmSince everyone is trying to figure out the equivalent of Saruman and Wormtongue let’s not forget something that didn’t make it into the movies. The Scouring of The Shire. Any ideas now?
October 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pmWhittle!
October 17th, 2008 at 2:36 pmpffffffffft! If only! But we would be smart and use the eagles, right?
October 17th, 2008 at 2:36 pmI’m afraid the way the enemy was defeated in Tolkien involved two things:
October 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pm1) The enemy pouring his spirit and power into a single ultimate weapon - the One Ring.
2) Chance.
I think the Red Sox must have read yesterday’s post before the game last night. When it was darkest and the big loss loomed ahead, they did not give up. Amazing game. /baseball dork off
October 17th, 2008 at 2:37 pmThese attacks on ordinary people from the Left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) are nothing new. That’s always been the Left’s tactic: if you have no facts on your side, it’s time for the ad hominem. In this case, the Left dare not confront the facts, ergo.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:43 pmAARGH! My ears are bleeding. I have mentioned before that my wife is a Die-Hard Lefty who has drunk the Kool-Aid, but I thought that even she would respond to The One’s response to Joe the Plumber.
I was wrong.
When I rattled off the last line about spreading the wealth, she asked, “And what’s wrong with that?”
As far as who is Sauron, I actually would say that Obama is Sauron, the MSM is Grima Wormtongue, and the Democratic Party is The One Ring.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:45 pmBut what pray tell, do we name this baby? Neil Gary Lifeson? Alex Lee Peart?
October 17th, 2008 at 2:47 pmWayneB Says:
So we get to use the eagles to chuck them into the fire? :0)
October 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pmI can live with that…
The articles attacking Joe keep claiming that he isn’t a plumber because he doesn’t have a license and he isn’t registered anywhere. But what world view is this? That you have to have license to be something!? That you have to be approved to by the government to be!? This is a quote from the Toledo Blade - “He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio, which means he’s not a plumber.” Yes, he is not registered to operate as a plumber - so that makes him not a “registered plumber” - but he still might be the best damn plumber around, who the hell knows. Really, it’s becoming as if the government doesn’t say so, than it isn’t so.
October 17th, 2008 at 2:53 pmWayne B — I know what you mean! My (usually sober & well-respected) office mate has totally drunk the kool-aid. He actually is TOTALLY FINE PAYING HIGHER TAXES PERSONALLY if it will help provide benefits that he thinks are our responsibility to provide. “Here, take my hard-earned money and distribute it as you see fit” How can you argue with that?!?
October 17th, 2008 at 3:00 pmOk, can’t believe anyone didn’t get this. Or maybe I missed it in one of the many comments.
Who is Gollum in all this?
Why thats simple.
Gollum plays a major roll early on as he owns the precious, it is his and no one can have it.
then he has his precious stolen from him.
Then you don’t know who’s side they are on, is he working for good, or evil?
But deep down, the precious has corrupted them and they are evil.
And of course, the precious is the oval office.
If that isn’t clear enough for you.
Gollum is Hillary of course.
Loving the LotR threads, btw.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:11 pmNot to get all partical on you folks, but if you could spend just a few of the minutes you are using to debate whether George Soros is the Witch King of Angmar, Sauron, or Morgoth, whether Hillary is Shelob or a Balrog, and whether Bob Barr is Saruman or just Bill Ferny, you just might have time to make a call or two for the McCain campaign.
When Aragon says “This day we fight!”, I don’t think he’s talking about extra snarky blog comments.
David
October 17th, 2008 at 3:12 pmI may have to sit down Sunday for a nine-hour LotR marathon after this thread.
Peter Jackson surprises me. He goes from making movies like “Bad Taste” and “Meet the Feebles” to Lord of the Rings.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:15 pmWayneB -
I’m not smart enough to portray this as a fact, but I surmise that your wife is, along with a good amount of other women in this world, genetically programmed to behave in that manner. In addition to genetics, i.e., that warm, fuzzy womanly part of us that wants to put their mothering arms around the world, I believe there is a lot of social pressure from birth onward to always want to play fair, don’t rock the boat, etc.
I believe that I was given a great lesson when I left my first marriage and I think a lot of single mothers will agree with me here. I had to learn how to think like a man to protect and provide for my daughter. I became mama bear to the Nth degree and learned better how to navigate this world. I believe this led to my conversion to conservatism (that and 9/11 when I realized that Clinton should be strung up as a traitor.)
My new husband likes to think that he had a lot to do with this change, which he has to some degree, but majority of it happened before I met him. Most of my friends who are in a content marriages, like my friend Jane that I mentioned a few days back, have very liberal views because they can. They have a man there to protect them and their brood.
As I look back, I have become softer, probably a little more liberal again, since marrying for the second time. My husband is conservative enough for several people…believe me.
So in some ways, you can consider your wife’s liberal views a compliment. You are doing your job as a man and taking good care of your family. You have to agree that:
Man = provider and woman = nurturer really is genetically programmed in all of us, back to the first time a cave wife told her cave husband not to drag that bloody carcass into her newly cleaned cave.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:16 pmAs said in a very timely way
“I am Joe!”
I did make some shirts so everyone can say too. I hope you don’t mind me posting the link
October 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pmI already know more about Joe the Plumber’s affairs than I do Obama’s. Something wrong there. Anyone want to wager that he loses his job before the month’s end?
To go with the LOTR theme, I’m going to make a huge stretch here because all the good ones have been taken already … but how about Ron Paul as Tom Bombadil? He didn’t belong with any of the races and to be perfectly honest, I think he went a wee bit crazy living in the woods all alone.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pmObama came to the plumber’s house. The plumber asked a question. Now the media is trying to destroy the plumber, and I can only suppose with Obama’s blessing.
A warning to Obama: Do NOT come to my house and knock on my door. I will punch you in your face. Got it, asshole?
October 17th, 2008 at 3:39 pmFor the sectret service:
That was a joke, OK?
October 17th, 2008 at 3:40 pmbaxtrice, Amanda -
If we are going to talk about Rush, I’m going to have to throw in some lyrics from The Trees:
Two of the last three concerts I’ve been to were Rush. The other was Charlie Daniels.
October 17th, 2008 at 3:45 pmSo…who are our Frodo & Samwise?
I actually think that Joe the Plumber could fit Frodo or Samwise. He’s one of the “little people”, doing his thing, when he gets caught up in “big people” affairs. Joe is probably more Samwise than Frodo, as he’s not carrying the Ring, and he’s not directly responsible for the Ring…but without Samwise Frodo would not have been able to complete the quest.
And yes, Hillary (or the Clintons) is Gollum. Totally agree with that. Seduced by the power of the Ring. Wanting the “Precious” above everything else. But having moments of brilliance and regret…and caring for Frodo.
Gollum is a split personality, after all. The original Smeagol and the Gollum he became.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:10 pmFellow Rush fans will know this, one of my favorite sentiments…
Well, you can stake that claim -
Good work is the key to good fortune
Winners take that praise
Losers seldom take that blame
If they don’t take that game
And sometimes the winner takes nothing
We draw our own designs
But fortune has to make that frame
We go out in the world and take our chances
Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That’s the way that lady luck dances
Roll the bones
Rachel, I don’t always agree with you but there is great truth in your underlying argument: never stop fighting.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:11 pmOuch! Mrs. WayneB’s not alone, of course — plenty of people, male and female, fall for the plausible arguments made by socialists. My own mother is a ‘recovering Socialist’, despite being married to my conservative father for 57 years. She’s come around quite a bit in the last couple of decades (El Rushbo has helped!), but tends to backslide when she gets together with her old college chums — poor Pater!
At any rate, as long as there’s no danger of harming your marriage, just keep tossing out examples and asking for her reactions. Be creative, try to find examples that connect with her life and experiences — eventually you may hit upon an analogy that works, or begins to work.
She can’t be stupid — she married you! — but I suspect she believes that leading with her heart is the right thing to do, and thus is reluctant to seriously examine the unintended consequences. Has she read The Forgotten Man? Would she?
October 17th, 2008 at 4:16 pmGasgwar,
Don’t forget the ending:
“and the trees are all kept equal, by hatchet, ax, and sword.”
October 17th, 2008 at 4:16 pmAfter brief, further thought…we are all Frodo.
We are entrusted with the One Ring (the Presidency). Except that we don’t want to destroy it, we want to preserve it for it’s proper use.
The destruction of the One Ring of Power doesn’t work in this analogy. But if you look at the One Ring as the Power of the Presidency…then we are the ones who have been entrusted with it - who has it, who uses/abuses it. That is our responsibility. We are the ones who decide.
So each of us has to brave the swamps (MSM), brave Mordor (current leftists), brave Shelob (Michelle Obama and those that would call us racist for being against the “One”)…we all have to do our part to ensure that the One Ring does not fall to those who would use it poorly.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:20 pmIowahawk suggests that we all go to every website that is carrying this story and leave in the comment section “I am Joe.”
I am Joe and I am on it!
October 17th, 2008 at 4:31 pmEthne:I can’t believe I missed the Temples of Syrinx! Good catch! Awesome job
October 17th, 2008 at 4:43 pmI’m having a debate with a friend who is an avid nonvoter. But if he were to vote I have no doubt it would be for spreading the wealth. Admittedly he has had a rough life, and wishes he’d have been given more support in his younger years. He sees me and all conservatives as Ebonezer Scrooge. He cannot see the difference between the people who can’t help themselves and those who won’t. To him, if Joe the Plumber can afford the $250K business, why shouldn’t he help those who can’t (won’t)? My arguments fall on deaf ears.
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I’ve read the LOTR trilogy several times–you guys are making some great comparisons. I’m also a big RUSH fan–so much of their music is apropos–The Trees, A Farewell to Kings, Closer to the Heart… Here’s some of the lyrics to Peaceable Kingdom:
October 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pmWould that make the candidate Mt. Doom?
Sounds twisted…
October 17th, 2008 at 4:53 pmFrom now on, call a “plunger” an “obama”!
– chicopanther
October 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pmOf course they do. Because they all assume that they won’t be the ones having their wealth “spread around” by the government.
October 17th, 2008 at 4:57 pm::mutters::
October 17th, 2008 at 4:57 pmGood thing we finally got unpacked (after almost a year), now I can find my Rush CDs.
ElvenPhoenix,
Yes! I would offer “police power of government” in place of “Power of The Presidency”, though, because the framers, in their wisdom, saved us from the nightmare of having too much of that power vested in a single individual.
Boromir would have approved: thanks to the Constitution, with its Bill of Rights, vital and intact, we don’t have to destroy the ‘Ring’ after all!
Ben,
October 17th, 2008 at 5:01 pmHillary as Gollum — brilliant!
–Counterparts
— Test for Echo
— Vapor Trails
October 17th, 2008 at 5:11 pmgreenhell,
I refuse to “ask” the government for permission to carry a gun. Does this ‘make’ me a lawbreaker?
Granted, we would all like for a licenced plumber to work on our plumbing, and he has tried to attain that status, but it really is up to his ‘Boss’, to aquire the proper status for his licence, to give the “go ahead” so to speak. Joe the plumber hasn’t aquired his licence because his ‘boss’ hasn’t followed through with the paper work.
Make no mistake Greenhell, I am not challenging you, at all.
I get dayumed sick and tired of being told I have to have a licence from the gooberment to exist!
October 17th, 2008 at 5:22 pmOne Little Victory is a great song. They released that before the rest of the Vapor Trails album and I thought to myself, “Yes! Rush is back!”
I’d feel remiss if I didn’t mention just about every song off of Led Zeppelin IV in a LOTR / song lyric mingled post thread.
October 17th, 2008 at 5:27 pmGood catch, and I can’t believe I missed that, since Led Zep is right behind Rush on my list of bands.
— total LOTR rockage
October 17th, 2008 at 5:38 pmIt’s little things like this that show where someone’s thinking really is. And for the Kwizatch Haderach (see, I can out-geek the lot of you! I was going to SF conventions when Rachel was in nursery school! BWAHAHAHA!) to say that to a working man shows the depth of his party’s contempt for the productive classes. As long as we let the welfare parasites vote (and live among us instead of shipping them off somewhere far from cities and bright lights) we’ll have our modern “Democratic” party.
October 17th, 2008 at 6:36 pmObama: “Fool, no man can kill me.”
Palin: “I am no man. Arghhhhhh!”
The strength of our republic resides in the citizenry. This is precisely why Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber resonate in our collective consciousness. We are sick of silk-clad courtiers who only pretend to represent us (Jack Murtha as Denathor, anyone?). The electorate regardless of party affiliation is angry right now, and that will likely result in many consequences unforseen by the MSM.
As per the Election of 2000, the media is trying to stampede the electorate just as they tried to do in Florida by calling the state early for Gore. I remember quite distinctly calling BS on that noise when it happened, and found myself backed up by Mary Madeline who was the only pundit who got it right. The polls are just another propaganda arm of the MSM. When Rasmussen called me the other night, I declined to participate. Now think you, reader, how many other conservatives have done the same?
This battle will not be over until the sun riseth on the morning of November 5th. And who are the Rohirim? We are, brothers and sisters. And we shall ride them to the river. We need only survive until the sun rises, and the opposition will melt away in the light, back to Mordor where the dark masters will flog their sullen slaves. “There will come a day when all fellowship is broken. But it is not this day! Today, we fight!”
October 17th, 2008 at 6:37 pm“The articles attacking Joe keep claiming that he isn’t a plumber because he doesn’t have a license and he isn’t registered anywhere. But what world view is this? That you have to have license to be something!? That you have to be approved to by the government to be!? This is a quote from the Toledo Blade - “He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio, which means he’s not a plumber.” Yes, he is not registered to operate as a plumber - so that makes him not a “registered plumber” - but he still might be the best damn plumber around, who the hell knows. Really, it’s becoming as if the government doesn’t say so, than it isn’t so.”
by THAT logic,since I’m retired from the army now,and hence no longer “licenced”,or “registered”,I’m somehow less of a soldier,even though I’ve got 27 years experience
October 17th, 2008 at 6:38 pmIt’s too bad there isn’t a fund to donate to for Joe the Plumber, to help pay his $1187.00 IRS bill and to help if he is no longer able to work without a license until he can get one. They have screwed him royally - I’ve looked online to see if someone has started a fund, but I haven’t found any.
October 17th, 2008 at 6:49 pmTrue for some, but as chikia has pointed out, for others, it’s not about the money. For the yuppie socialists, a.k.a the ‘Birkenstock Castrati’, it seems to be more a matter of believing that their social inferiors need to be ministered to through ‘good government’. I will grant you though, while perfectly willing to pay higher taxes themselves, these folks usually like to think that corporations are being taxed even more punitively. [I know! Only individuals pay taxes!]
October 17th, 2008 at 6:56 pmHey! I found this web site endorsing Joe for congress:
October 17th, 2008 at 7:02 pmBen:
Today I was actually trying to figure out who Gollum should be. Your suggestion is absolutely the right one. Awesome!
October 17th, 2008 at 7:06 pmAmerica
I don’t know how he would fit into the LOTR, but John Wayne had some good quotes about America, and politics:
“Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I’m not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be. I was proud when President Nixon ordered the mining of Haiphong Harbor, which we should have done long ago, because I think we’re helping a brave little country defend herself against Communist invasion. That’s what I tried to show in The Green Berets and I took plenty of abuse from the critics.”
On His Political Philosophy
“I have found a certain type calls himself a Liberal…Now I always thought I was a Liberal. I came up terribly surprised one time when I found out that I was a Right-Wing Conservative Extremist, when I listened to everybody’s point of view that I ever met, and then decided how I should feel. But this so-called new Liberal group, Jesus, they never listen to your point of view…”
“If everything isn’t black and white, I say why the hell not.”
October 17th, 2008 at 8:00 pmJohn Wayne
Maybe he could have been Erol, founder of Rohan:)
After many nanoseconds of thought, I believe it goes something like this:
Sauron = George Soros (evil behind the scenes)
Saruman = Obama
Grima Wormtongue = Biden
Orcs and Urukai = Mainstream Media
Gollum = Pelosi (only cares about the power)
Rohirrim = Us
Gandalf = Reagan (just not back yet)
Aragorn = Jindal (not ready to lead yet)
Eowyn = Palin
That’s all I got for now.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:45 pmSpread the wealth? To me that means, spread your cheeks… because that’s just where we’ll be taking this if they get their paws on the rings of power. And no, they won’t let you lube up first.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pmI would like to put a plug in for the media being Gryma Wormtongue. Their job is to spread lies, weave tales and weaken our resolve.
One of the more obvious comparisons is
Gore = Rhadaghast (sp?)
Rhadaghast was supposed to play a larger role but wasn’t quite up to the task. He became fascinated with birds and beasts of the forest to the point where he just ended up wandering around aimlessly.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:08 pmSo, who would the Balrog be?
October 17th, 2008 at 11:25 pmZK asked:
Helen Thomas? (The breath is the same, at least.)
October 18th, 2008 at 3:13 amJoe does not need a license for residential work. He does residential. He’d need one for commercial. He does not do commercial. Sadly, the forces of hate and destruction - the democrat sucking media - do not know shit from shinola about real working people, so they have not even asked this question. That would require actual blue collar working people to be in the media, not the academia inbreds who infest the current media.
Used to be that the press were blatantly partisan - The Hooverville Democrat Gazette of the The Lower Toecheese Republican Herald. Now they all claim to be “objective” journalists, but we all know they lie. Yet so many suck it up and believe it.
Thankfully, our founders knew the danger of one party rule and set us up with a two-year cycle on the House. If Obeyme gets in, we have a Hope to Change things in two years.
October 18th, 2008 at 3:45 amBalrog = absolute most evil/scary thing there is.
so Balrog = Socialism?
about Joe: He’s an apprentice. Apprentices don’t get licenses
October 18th, 2008 at 8:02 amPlus any takers on Ronald Reagan as Gil Gilad?
The Lay of Gil-galad
Gil-galad was an Elven-king.
Of him the harpers sadly sing:
the last whose realm was fair and free
between the Mountains and the Sea.
His sword was long, his lance was keen,
his shining helm afar was seen;
the countless stars of heaven’s field
were mirrored in his silver shield.
But long ago he rode away,
October 18th, 2008 at 10:44 amand where he dwelleth none can say;
for into darkness fell his star
in Mordor where the shadows are.
Just wait for the New! Improved! Fairness Doctrine to sweep all dissenting blogs under the bus…..
“And… and all that was once green and good in this world will be gone. There won’t be a Shire, Pippin.”
The MSM as Sauron? Sort of, yes.
October 18th, 2008 at 10:47 amMouth of Sauron: Keith Olbermann. C’mon, is there any doubt?
Grima Wormtongue: A tough one, what with the entire MSM in general in contention. An antholigical award….
October 18th, 2008 at 11:13 amWe are in a fight. It is still a fight of ideas and ideals, but the methods of self maintenance still apply.
Those rules are:
October 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pmAnger trumps despair.
Rage trumps fear.
Resolve trumps fatigue.
Equivocation breeds dissolution of purpose.
Hesitancy gives momentum to the opponent.
Defeatism is surrender.
Oh, No, No, No! Please don’t pin Gore on dear Radagast!
Gore is an evil, selfish, pig! Radagast — albeit unwittingly — saved Gandalf from Orthanc by going to Mirkwood and alerting the Eagles to the news that The Nine were on the move (the whole moth thing just worked better on film).
Radagast would be more like. . . like. . . Audubon or Peterson (but preferably someone still alive).
/geek out
October 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pmI would have to say the Balrog would have to be Michelle Obama. Flame of Udun indeed!
October 18th, 2008 at 8:27 pmRachel this always encourages me…
General Patton heavily believed in reincarnation…so who knows.
October 19th, 2008 at 12:22 amThanks! .
October 19th, 2008 at 4:39 amMore on the Joe the Plumber drama
October 20th, 2008 at 8:22 amAttack his lifestyle, and his mama
Print his address and divorce
And his tax records, of course,
How dare he question The Obama?